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Mullvad and Tailscale Announce Partnership (mullvad.net)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2728889

From the article:

Since Tailscale was founded in 2019, customers have been forced to choose between either Tailscale or Mullvad without the ability for them to co-exist.
Today we announce a partnership with Tailscale that allows you to use both in conjunction through the Tailscale app. This functionality is not available through the Mullvad VPN app. This partnership allows customers of Tailscale to make use of our WireGuard VPN servers as “exit nodes”. This means that whilst connected to Tailscale, you can access your devices across Tailscale’s mesh network, whilst still connecting outbound through Mullvad VPN WireGuard servers in any location.

Announcement also on Tailscale blog.

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[–] 64 points 3 years ago (25 children)

I have the utmost respect and appreciation for mullvad but I don't need a vpn without port forwarding so I cancelled my sub. They are still objectively the vest vpn, this is the only sticking point.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (19 children)

    What does port forwarding gain you on a VPN? Sorry if the question is ignorant

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago* (11 children)

    You need it for file sharing apps like BitTorrent or Soulseek, if you don't want to be seen as a leech, and/or you want to use private trackers where you need to maintain a good ratio. :)

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Then you can just use a seed box on top of your downloading

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    Why would you use a seedbox if you have a home server? The home server can be the seedbox. A lot of homelabbers would have a good enough connection for it.

    Edit: Using a VPN with port forwarding, of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Generally when you download files over torrent through your ISP, you end up getting love letters from rightsholders. I personally use a homelab NAS as my seedbox and for my public tracker stuff (as well as anime downloads over XDCC) I use Mullvad. I don't seed overly much on public trackers because of it, but my ratio on private trackers is sky high because ISPs won't send love letters for private trackers.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Generally when you download files over torrent through your ISP, you end up getting love letters from rightsholder

    That's why you use a VPN that allows port forwarding.

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  • [+] -14 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Most private trackers don't allow a shared VPN like Mullvad anyway. Some do but most don't.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    I haven't personally seen a private tracker that blocks your actual bittorrent announces to the tracker with a VPN, though I know a couple prevent you from browsing the site itself with one.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    Another use case (in addition to the BitTorrent use case) is if you want to host a site but hide your IP. You can run Nginx and configure it to listen on a port the VPN service has allocated to you. Good VPN services like AirVPN let you choose ports, and those ports are always allocated to you.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    although people hosting illegal content using port forwarding is likely one of the reasons they removed it, so its a tricky problem

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    One of the main reasons people use VPNs is for illegal content... Port forwarding doesn't change that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    sure illegal content can be accessed over a vpn without port forwarding, but when someone is hosting a child porn site over a mullvad ip, that is clearly a larger problem

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, unfortunately because of this decision from Mullvad, they also lost me as customer and I had to move to another.

    It kinda sucks because I loved Mullvad. They had great servers, customer service, and I do like their Android & Linux program.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Did they change something? I've been port forwarding for a couple of years now.

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