▲ 206 ▼ [Swedish] Mullvad CEO donates to Swedish party that believes in "remigration" (www.flamman.se) submitted 2 months ago by heliotrope@retrofed.com to c/privacy@programming.dev 73 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/51378224
[+] kraxla@piefed.social -14 points 2 months ago (7 children) Criminals and murderers are made up too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago (2 children) Then deport the right wing violent criminals You're pretending immigrants are more violent but they're not actually, in most countries they're less dangerous on average permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kraxla@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago Yes thats good too permalink fedilink source parent [+] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) You've switch the goal posts, this section of replies has become about "what would happen without National Borders". It's not about modern immigration systems anymore. When borders are dissolved (as they are in poverty, chaos, and war) disease spreads more easily, international criminal gangs operate with impunity, smuggling, kidnapping and people smuggling occur, murders and attacks escalate, gangs and unreported crimes increase. Claiming that stating that, is really just saying "migrants are criminals" - when the topic has CLEARLY become about something else (a hypothetical about National Borders) is bullshit. Bait and switch. The topic for this branch of replies is CLEARLY no longer simple immigration. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Well no they are very real and one is currently president of the shit-ass country with the mostest and biggliest military in the world. What a great ad for borders, good job! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kraxla@piefed.social -12 points 2 months ago (1 child) Whats so bad about borders? You can move them if some folk is unhappy, no? Like ith serbia montenegro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago Highly conditional, just as likely you'll get yourself killed or have to flee to the hills with guns and rebels. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago Basically inviting all the stuff that happens after a war. From disease to people smuggling to contaminated goods to theft and smuggling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago (2 children) Then deport the right wing violent criminals You're pretending immigrants are more violent but they're not actually, in most countries they're less dangerous on average permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kraxla@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago Yes thats good too permalink fedilink source parent [+] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) You've switch the goal posts, this section of replies has become about "what would happen without National Borders". It's not about modern immigration systems anymore. When borders are dissolved (as they are in poverty, chaos, and war) disease spreads more easily, international criminal gangs operate with impunity, smuggling, kidnapping and people smuggling occur, murders and attacks escalate, gangs and unreported crimes increase. Claiming that stating that, is really just saying "migrants are criminals" - when the topic has CLEARLY become about something else (a hypothetical about National Borders) is bullshit. Bait and switch. The topic for this branch of replies is CLEARLY no longer simple immigration. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) You've switch the goal posts, this section of replies has become about "what would happen without National Borders". It's not about modern immigration systems anymore. When borders are dissolved (as they are in poverty, chaos, and war) disease spreads more easily, international criminal gangs operate with impunity, smuggling, kidnapping and people smuggling occur, murders and attacks escalate, gangs and unreported crimes increase. Claiming that stating that, is really just saying "migrants are criminals" - when the topic has CLEARLY become about something else (a hypothetical about National Borders) is bullshit. Bait and switch. The topic for this branch of replies is CLEARLY no longer simple immigration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Well no they are very real and one is currently president of the shit-ass country with the mostest and biggliest military in the world. What a great ad for borders, good job! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kraxla@piefed.social -12 points 2 months ago (1 child) Whats so bad about borders? You can move them if some folk is unhappy, no? Like ith serbia montenegro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago Highly conditional, just as likely you'll get yourself killed or have to flee to the hills with guns and rebels. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kraxla@piefed.social -12 points 2 months ago (1 child) Whats so bad about borders? You can move them if some folk is unhappy, no? Like ith serbia montenegro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago Highly conditional, just as likely you'll get yourself killed or have to flee to the hills with guns and rebels. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago Highly conditional, just as likely you'll get yourself killed or have to flee to the hills with guns and rebels. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago Basically inviting all the stuff that happens after a war. From disease to people smuggling to contaminated goods to theft and smuggling. permalink fedilink source parent