▲ 89 ▼ Marvel's attempt at introducing non-binary characters (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ClathrateG@hexbear.net to c/comics@hexbear.net 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments Yes those are their actual names, after the backlash they never appeared in published comic(these are from sneak peaks at a then unreleased new New Warriors series) apparently their origin involved inhaling 'internet gas'
[+] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (5 children) On the one hand, non-binary people don't owe anyone androgyny: my own non-binary OC reads as pretty fem-presenting outside of xyr own fictional culture, but goes by xe/xem, You Can Just Do That. So if these two characters were real people, we hopefully wouldn't be complaining about them not looking "enby enough." On the other hand… It really does feel in context like they just took a stock woman and man, gave them both short hair, and gave the woman the boy color and the man the girl color, and called it a day. It feels like a pretty cringe forced insertion of the gender binary, I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) On the one hand, non-binary people don't owe anyone androgyny: my own non-binary OC reads as pretty fem-presenting outside of xyr own fictional culture, but goes by xe/xem, You Can Just Do That. So if these two characters were real people, we hopefully wouldn't be complaining about them not looking "enby enough." This is always the difference between writing a character in a particular way and a conscious human being choosing to act in a particular way. A character has no agency, so they'll be a collection of ideas that the creator has about that group, and if they aren't a part of that particular group and don't actually bother to research them and try to understand them, it will most likely end up with the character just being a bunch of stereotypes. It's really frustrating, I apparently put more effort into researching and writing characters for fucking porn games than big projects with huge budgets like this do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) fucking porn games As opposed to non-fucking porn games, of which there aren't very many. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children) I meant fucking as in emphasis, there is actually no fucking in this porn game, it's all tasteful fades to black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm just pullin' yer leg, yankin' yer chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net [S] 11 points 2 months ago Don't forget the haircuts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (5 children) On the one hand, non-binary people don't owe anyone androgyny: my own non-binary OC reads as pretty fem-presenting outside of xyr own fictional culture, but goes by xe/xem, You Can Just Do That. So if these two characters were real people, we hopefully wouldn't be complaining about them not looking "enby enough." On the other hand… It really does feel in context like they just took a stock woman and man, gave them both short hair, and gave the woman the boy color and the man the girl color, and called it a day. It feels like a pretty cringe forced insertion of the gender binary, I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) On the one hand, non-binary people don't owe anyone androgyny: my own non-binary OC reads as pretty fem-presenting outside of xyr own fictional culture, but goes by xe/xem, You Can Just Do That. So if these two characters were real people, we hopefully wouldn't be complaining about them not looking "enby enough." This is always the difference between writing a character in a particular way and a conscious human being choosing to act in a particular way. A character has no agency, so they'll be a collection of ideas that the creator has about that group, and if they aren't a part of that particular group and don't actually bother to research them and try to understand them, it will most likely end up with the character just being a bunch of stereotypes. It's really frustrating, I apparently put more effort into researching and writing characters for fucking porn games than big projects with huge budgets like this do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) fucking porn games As opposed to non-fucking porn games, of which there aren't very many. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children) I meant fucking as in emphasis, there is actually no fucking in this porn game, it's all tasteful fades to black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm just pullin' yer leg, yankin' yer chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) On the one hand, non-binary people don't owe anyone androgyny: my own non-binary OC reads as pretty fem-presenting outside of xyr own fictional culture, but goes by xe/xem, You Can Just Do That. So if these two characters were real people, we hopefully wouldn't be complaining about them not looking "enby enough." This is always the difference between writing a character in a particular way and a conscious human being choosing to act in a particular way. A character has no agency, so they'll be a collection of ideas that the creator has about that group, and if they aren't a part of that particular group and don't actually bother to research them and try to understand them, it will most likely end up with the character just being a bunch of stereotypes. It's really frustrating, I apparently put more effort into researching and writing characters for fucking porn games than big projects with huge budgets like this do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) fucking porn games As opposed to non-fucking porn games, of which there aren't very many. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children) I meant fucking as in emphasis, there is actually no fucking in this porn game, it's all tasteful fades to black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm just pullin' yer leg, yankin' yer chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (3 children) fucking porn games As opposed to non-fucking porn games, of which there aren't very many. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children) I meant fucking as in emphasis, there is actually no fucking in this porn game, it's all tasteful fades to black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm just pullin' yer leg, yankin' yer chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children) I meant fucking as in emphasis, there is actually no fucking in this porn game, it's all tasteful fades to black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm just pullin' yer leg, yankin' yer chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm just pullin' yer leg, yankin' yer chain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net [S] 11 points 2 months ago Don't forget the haircuts permalink fedilink source parent