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this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2026
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You mention crappy security practices from the ISP but then mention the user's action (installing "free" VPNs). Why is the ISP on the hook for the user making terrible decisions?
What is the correct security practice in that instance? Fire the customer for being an idiot? Maybe just DENY IP ANY ANY on outbound traffic?
How do you protect somebody who is intent on running themselves off a cliff?
I mention two separate issues.
ISPs are absolutely on the hook for forcing crap hardware onto (non technical) users.
Users are to blame for installing crapware.
Can you tell them apart now?
ISPs should be held liable for the crap they sell – they'd start taking security seriously.
As for users, depends on the motives, but educating them to the risks (and not in a you wouldn't download a car way).