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[META] Are paid for, closed source projects, being advertised on this community, appropriate? (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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A number of brand new accounts have popped up shilling their paid for applications.

Is this within the rules? Is the community happy with this? Could mods clarify this in the rules?

Either allowing advertising, or banning it entirely.

my point is - there is a difference between an open source homegrown project that might be useful, vs closed source paid for projects from brand new accounts

some replies are misunderstanding, somehow.

I am against

brand new accounts who:

  1. first post is a brand new project
  2. project is closed source
  3. project will cost money
  4. is asking for free testing
  5. the post is literally an advertisement
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[–] [S] 17 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

that is incredibly misleading.

its not someone asking advice about a closed source app. its someone shilling their own paid for product.

why are you ok with advertising for paid for products being shoved down your throat?

they arent “willing to give it away”. theyre willing to give it to testers for free labour to test their paid for app.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    why are you ok with advertising for paid for products being shoved down your throat?

    No one, not one living soul that has graced the halls of Lemmy selfhosted since I've been here has shoved anything down anyone's throat. Are you not master of your own domain? Do you not possess self control? Additionally, I chart my own course. I don't let hive mind tell me what I can and can't selfhost or use in relation to my server.

    they arent “willing to give it away”. theyre willing to give it to testers for free labour to test their paid for app.

    So, to recap, they're going to give their app, which is closed source but integrates with what most selfhosters host, to beta testers, who are interested, and in return, the beta testers get to keep the app for free. I see no free labor.

    It was said when rule 3 was being discussed, that there are so few selfhosters out here, why gatekeep?

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I dont want to scroll lemmy to find advertisements.

    why are you fighting so hard for it? do you want adverts here? do you want every post to be yet another closed source paid for project? Thats sad.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Well, for one, I can actually scroll right by things I'm uninterested in. My mouse wheel goes by three row clicks. It doesn't take all that much effort, even for this old geezer, to just whiz right on by. Even if it's something I'm uninterested in, like the *arr stack in general, I can still be positive about it. It's pretty fascinating to me how it all clicks together. But I have definite, hard coded opinions against piracy in general, no matter what your rationale is. I know some use the *arr stack for their own physical collections, but let's be real....the vast amount of selfhosters that deploy the *arr stack are pirating.

    why are you fighting so hard for it?

    Because I honestly feel that the OP with the integrated, closed source app he asked if anyone wanted to beta test, acted in good faith.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Every comment you make makes me more and more convinced that you've created a throwaway account to advertise your own paid products here.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Now that is quite hilarious. What paid products am I advertising? I'm not a dev, and frankly I would never be a dev. For one, I'm not that well educated in the area of programming. Two, I wouldn't be confident enough to release it to the public. Three, I wouldn't put up with all the bellyaching that goes on, demanding that a dev do this or that with something he wrote. Hard pass.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Did I say you did so on this account?

    Your long reply and bullshit about "bellyaching" isn't helping me think otherwise.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago

    Did I say you did so on this account?

    OK you got me. I joined a year ago, made a fistful of accounts, just for this very day. Even though, if you rifle through all of my posts and comments, you'll pretty much see, I have no programming skills and I have nothing to sell. But again, you are welcome to your own opinion.

    Your long reply

    I'm— sorry—I—used—too—many—sentences.

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