cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/solarpunk/p/2152492/ev-popularity-in-china-accounts-for-262000-fewer-deaths-from-air-pollution

The results were a 23.8% reduction in PM2.5, and a 30% reduction in carbon monoxide, resulting in some 320,000 fewer deaths from air pollution.

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[+] -15 points 3 months ago (22 children)

Are we sure they aren't just weening off the genocide in Xinjiang and need an excuse for the change in demographic trends?

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    The air quality can be independently verified pretty easily, and we know that lower pollution reduces deaths.... so while your comment is trying to get a different point, it's not particularly good at doing so.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    If my comment upsets you then it was intended to: fuck China. If they want this research to have legitimacy they should put the researchers' or institution's name in the headline instead of China.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    You can fuck China and also be happy that they have reduced air pollution

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Yes I absolutely can, and curiously here I am saying Fuck China and some demographic on the fediverse is REALLY upset about that.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I just stumbled upon this, but to me it looks like you're the one who's upset...?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Implying they would ever wean off of genocide?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Well they can't eradicate the same race of people forever.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I can no longer tell whether you're pro- or anti-China.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Look.

    When you kill people, they die. Are you gonna kill them again? Because if China id doing that then they're more evil than I thought.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Not to mention, the Xinjiang part of this argument doesn't really make sense either. The Xinjiang stuff does not involve direct death (besides conditions being as horrible as prison) so that it is far worse than death: it kills the culture, is suspected of forcing organ donations, and institutes sterilization. Unfortunately for the Uyghurs, death is not involved here.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh it involves some amount of dorect death but actually the discussion is about birth rates.

    As a whole it is not a serious comment claiming China is fudging nunbers, just sharing a reminder in case anybody almost saw China in a positive light for a moment.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    The same could be said about Auschwitz right up until the Allies breached its gates and found the skeletons. People (even Jews) believed it was just an isolated Jewish living community where they’d have a happy life separated from the “Aryan Race”.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    source? i’m seeing that straight-to-death was known since 1940 (mere months after Auschwitz was built), the polish government published the conditions in 1942, and the ICEC knew by 1943. through the same ways we knew about Auschwitz is how we have reports from Uyghur and none of them mention Auschwitz mass-killings. we can recognize atrocities without said atrocities being as bad as Auschwitz

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