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submitted 2 months ago by to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's less than 10% because some of those that are able to comprehend what's happening are the ones who made it happen and/or are rooting for it like nothing else they've ever done. This is exactly what many want, them being on a high horse as many as possible never even getting the chance of dreaming of that position.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Eh at first glance I'd almost lump most of them in with that 40%, but I also have a hard time comprehending anyone of proper intelligence being that maniacal, so yeah I suppose you've got an excellent point. That said, most MAGAts I see in the real world are just on the bandwagon, heck most of the ones I meet can barely rub two brain cells together regarding politics to the point I have a small level of sympathy for just how stupid they are.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    i don't, stupid people are an anchor, frankly the bottom 20% should loss the ability to vote. BUUUUT!!

    They get UBI. (and nothing small, like 20-30K pegged to inflation or something, something BIG like that.)

    since they wont be represented in the voting spectrum any more, but they still are important for operation of the country and labor and frankly, we all know some dumb ass that we like or love. we wouldn't abandon them. but they don't posses critical thinking skill so they should get a dif societal task, acting as our strongest consumers or creatives, they could even save and start a business, remember a lot of business people aren't geniuses like engineers or scientists. we would totally be fine it we locked it to the bottom 20% (or whatever ratio would actually work, this is more of a generalization.) and i don't think we would get into any situation where that 20% lost voting rights would creep up, thanks to the new UBI anchor keeping the gov from having to pay more people, and the remaining 80% of people would be more likely to see though bullshit, especially now that the bottom 20% are disenfranchised from it. they won't peddle nonsense for these bad actors.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I could understand the idea in theory, but it could never be implemented in the real world without bias or manipulation. Look at the current administration, they'd simply deem anyone other than MAGA mentally incompetent to cement their power (like shoehorning TDS into the next DSM release). On top of which, the UBI you suggest would never be enough to actually live on or even be supplementary, further impoverishing those subject to it (see the current problems with SSI). Companies in lower income areas will simply raise prices since there is more money to be extracted.

    Realistically we need a drastic overhaul of American society that tips the scales back to the people, but at this point I dont know how that could be achieved since 20% will screech communism and vote against it.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    no they don't live off it, ubi isn't something you live off of, you have a job with it as well. after all, society requires everyone to chip in for things to work, as the current brake down were all experiencing has shown what happen when people don't pay their fair share.

    and yes, bad acting partys that use and manipulate these people will throw a fit, if this were to happen even if we say reduced that threshold of exclusion to the bottom 10%, this is more what i meant about me generalizing, the idea is thta we shave off the bottom and pay them money in exchange for theyre vo-!!

    hay, how about this instead, what if we added an option to the ballets to get the UBI for a year OR choose who to vote instead of forcing people out.

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