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[+] -15 points 3 months ago (14 children)

I agree but I wish people would act this way towards western modesty laws as well.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    We're not great, but we don't publicly torture women for not covering their heads...

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I'm not going to defend their bs, but let's not pretend that puritanical views on female (reproductive and otherwise) morality aren't killing people in places like the US.

    We kill women for having a uterus, not for appearance. Look at the supreme Court's garbage triggering abortion laws across the country. There is a death toll.

    We aren't exactly doing great in the west.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    My BS? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Western governments need to be shamed too.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I believe the “their” there was referring to Iran’s BS, not yours

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    That is exactly what I was doing.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Which people? Pretty sure you'd find lots of people doing just that, mostly those who are criticizing policies like the one in the article as well.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    In my experience many of the most strident critics of hair coverings refuse to see the similarity to anti-nudity laws, especially nipple covering which is specific to women.

    I mean I think the downvotes speak to the fact that the average person is not willing to admit the harms that our own ideas of modesty cause.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Or they think you're using whataboutism to make it about an issue your personally care about instead of the still very real issue conveyed in the article.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I can kind of see that criticism but I think talking about our own issues and hypocrisy here has relevance here. We do very similar things in our countries and there's very little fuss about it.

    And I did acknowledge that I agree Iranian morality policing should be condemned, so it's not like I'm trying to defend them, just talk about a related issue.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Then maybe don't make your statements "Yes... but", make them "Yes, and". It makes it less about how you think people should be worried about your issues and simply brings up a related issue as well.

    And, again, it's not like people don't care. Just like it's not that people don't care about the climate crisis, economic inequality, or health care... it's just people only have so much energy to give. And the current systems we live in do not provide room for an overabundance of sharing it.

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