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[+] -9 points 2 months ago* (24 children)

And that's another thing, why do we need approval to build whatever the fuck we want on land we own?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Because we live in a society with laws.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Easy to say, but look what happens when some oversized oompa loompa ignores them all And just acts for personal gain

    Unfortunately we’re likely to get stuck with more laws, more red tape, more paperwork, trying to prevent the current disaster from happening again

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    That's part of the problem with having so many laws written in lawyer speak. They are intentionally difficult to understand, so when someone the current leaders like is breaking them, they're interpreted to be weaker, and when someone they don't is, they get the book thrown at them.

    That's the problem with reinterpreting the laws we have instead of trying to actually change them.

    Consider the US Constitution. It has been considering a "living document" in spite of the fact that there is a well documented path to adding new laws and changing or removing existing laws.

    However, we have allowed the bureaucracy to j trude and decide that. No, this particular law actually means this now, when historically it meant the total opposite.

    Again, speaking from the point of view of an American, because I know my own government best, why do we have so many new federal departments, despite not one of them being listed in the Constitution? Because some judge decided that the clause "Provide for the general welfare" could be reinterpreted to mean "provide for every single citizen inside the nation's borders." rather than for the nation as a whole.

    Those same people would have had absolutely no power to add those departments the correct way, using the Amendment process.

    Look at how we handled Prohibition in the early 1900s, we required a Constitutional amendment to ban it and then again to undo said ban.

    Now, however, some random bureaucracy can decide what people can or can't put inside their own bodies...

    Why? Because some idiot decided to just reinterpret the Constitution.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    In this case, height restrictions. It's normally just a pro forma notification to the military that you're building something above a certain height so they know not to crash into it. It got weaponised by the trump admin.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    The military can go around, they're not supposed to be on my property anyway. It's my property, I should be able to do what I want on it.

    Just more government overreach.

    You think that sort of thing is new, or limited to just half of the Uniparty?

    Or do you actually realize it's not and are simply simping for your chosen side of the same stupid bird?

    Fuck em both, and fuck anyone who wants "their side" to win. I am so sick and tired of having to deal with these kinds of power hungry assholes.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

    Or do you actually realize it's not and are simply simping for your chosen side of the same stupid bird?

    Me: Answers questions with facts

    You: Simp!

    Dude, I've never even been to the States.

    The military can go around, they're not supposed to be on my property anyway.

    Also in case you didn't realise, we're talking airspace. Those turbines are way high.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    Again, what gives anyone the right to determine what someone else puts on land they own?

    You seem to actively want people to have to obey someone else, and if that's not sucking authoritarian cock I don't know what is.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You keep ascribing desires to me when I've done nothing more than explain the current situation... I have not stated a single opinion of mine in this thread thus far.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It all goes back to the fact that you tried to blame it all on Trump and his ilk, while I agree that he shares the blame, you are actually refusing to acknowledge the rest of the situation.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    In case your attempt to start arguments is sparked from actual ignorance ….

    federal permitting and leasing for wind projects

    • many wind farms are not on owned property. In particular for offshore wind farms there is no land that can be owned. Many projects are in locations leased from the government
    • if turbines are above above a certain height, it affects airspace used for flying, you don’t own
    • even renewables can be bad for the environment. The trope about killing birds has some truth to it, and environmental review keeps it from happening
    • yes, renewables can affect your neighbors and they deserve some consideration
    • yes, it’s conceivable that a wind farm offshore or near a base or a border can have national security implications

    In a nation of laws, things like this are worth considering. However that is different than using them as cover for personal beliefs

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I hope you don't mind when I build a 50 meter tall sun blocker to block your land from getting any sunlight since I should be allowed to build what I want.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Go for it, a nice shaded area would help me immensely. I do, however hope you've done a ground analysis, because if it falls on my house you're building me another. That's how it works. If it's no longer on just your property, it becomes my problem too.

    Edit to add: Besides, in cases where there's clearly been damage to another person and/or their property, that in itself is at the minimum a civil case.

    One could even argue that environmental concerns could also be a civil problem, as one person's poisonous fumes could easily cross into another person's property and damage their person or effects.

    All these so called environmental laws do is make it legal for any amount under a set limit. Regardless of any damage to people or property it causes. It's a legal amount after all!

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    There are far too many laws already on the books now.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    True, but that doesn't change the fact that laws are what "gives them the right".

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Immoral laws should not exist, and when they do they should not be followed.

    Any laws without an actual victim are immoral laws.

    Therefore any law that says I can't build something out in the middle of nowhere, on land I own, with no neighbors within a mile of me where no other land owners could conceivably be affected is itself also an immoral law.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Also true but it doesnt change anything.

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