▲ 514 ▼ PSA: while upvoting exists, to get the "move closer to the top" effect that reddit's upvote had, you need to click boost (kbin.social) submitted 3 years ago by tryplot@kbin.social to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments a small difference, but important to how people use the site
[–] PazuzusRevenge@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago (10 children) Agreed. I upvoted AND boosted your comment for redundancy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 30 points 3 years ago (9 children) They're not redundant functions. They're... Mixed up on kbin right now, because things were originally built with the up button boosting content, but that's incongruent with how Lemmy does it, so it was changed. But boosting isn't really about sorting at all. It's about republishing content, so that it can be sent out to instances that have started following a group after the content was originally posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 26 points 3 years ago (8 children) I believe it is more akin to 're-tweeting' for your followers. All boosts you boost are not private and everyone can see everything you have boosted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) How it's interpreted it is entirely up to the UI layer. On microblogs, it's surfaced as a retweet-like behaviour, but it's not surfaced at all here, really, except on kbin where it's used to report who has reboosted something. At its core, it's a republish button, and just as if you were to republish someone else's blog post on your own blog, people can see, if they look closely enough, that you've done it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artillect@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago If you follow someone on kbin, and they boost a thread, it'll show up in your feed. It's sorta like crossposting to your user page on reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Phlogiston@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (4 children) This makes sense — but if nobody knows it there is lots of room for confusion. “Boost” seems more like “updoot” than “retweet“. Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? The way content propagation works here is that someone using Website A follows a remote content source (either a user, or a group -- aka a "community" or a "magazine"), and the remote hosting website (let's call it Website B) sends all subsequent content from that source to Website A, where the requesting user can then view it. If someone from Website A was already following that content source, then they get to see all of the content that Website A had already received, and benefit from earlier users efforts. But if that person was the first from Website A to subscribe to that content source, then they only get future content. It's very similar to a, well, a magazine subscription in that way. NatGeo isn't sending you their 150 years worth of back catalogue when you subscribe in 2023 (not that you should bother subscribing to NatGeo in 2023). The 'boost' button republishes content, though. Posts, comments, whatever. Hitting 'boost' on a comment republishes it, and once republished the group actor (the little bot-like construct that functionally is the group) sees it as new content, and pushes it out to everyone following it. This means it will reach websites that started subscribing to the group after the comment was originally posted. Boosting is how older content (where older basically means "from anytime before literally right now") spreads through the fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sorchist@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago So this is one of those things like git, where you can't explain how it works on the surface to a normal person because it barely even makes sense if you don't know about the underlying plumbing. :\ Not awesome, but I guess that's what you get when you graft a reddit-like experience onto a fediverse that was more or less invented for microblogging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Thank you so much for this explanation, it really helped some of this click for me. I don't use kbin, so the boosting isn't so relevant to me, but I'm beginning to understand some of how the federation works together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] density@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago is following individuals a common thing on lemmy/kbin? on reddit ti was possible but virtually nobody did it. all about the community not "influencers". What I want to do is sho approval to the OP and make the post more likely to float to the attention of someone who will want it.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kichae@kbin.social 30 points 3 years ago (9 children) They're not redundant functions. They're... Mixed up on kbin right now, because things were originally built with the up button boosting content, but that's incongruent with how Lemmy does it, so it was changed. But boosting isn't really about sorting at all. It's about republishing content, so that it can be sent out to instances that have started following a group after the content was originally posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 26 points 3 years ago (8 children) I believe it is more akin to 're-tweeting' for your followers. All boosts you boost are not private and everyone can see everything you have boosted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) How it's interpreted it is entirely up to the UI layer. On microblogs, it's surfaced as a retweet-like behaviour, but it's not surfaced at all here, really, except on kbin where it's used to report who has reboosted something. At its core, it's a republish button, and just as if you were to republish someone else's blog post on your own blog, people can see, if they look closely enough, that you've done it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artillect@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago If you follow someone on kbin, and they boost a thread, it'll show up in your feed. It's sorta like crossposting to your user page on reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Phlogiston@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (4 children) This makes sense — but if nobody knows it there is lots of room for confusion. “Boost” seems more like “updoot” than “retweet“. Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? The way content propagation works here is that someone using Website A follows a remote content source (either a user, or a group -- aka a "community" or a "magazine"), and the remote hosting website (let's call it Website B) sends all subsequent content from that source to Website A, where the requesting user can then view it. If someone from Website A was already following that content source, then they get to see all of the content that Website A had already received, and benefit from earlier users efforts. But if that person was the first from Website A to subscribe to that content source, then they only get future content. It's very similar to a, well, a magazine subscription in that way. NatGeo isn't sending you their 150 years worth of back catalogue when you subscribe in 2023 (not that you should bother subscribing to NatGeo in 2023). The 'boost' button republishes content, though. Posts, comments, whatever. Hitting 'boost' on a comment republishes it, and once republished the group actor (the little bot-like construct that functionally is the group) sees it as new content, and pushes it out to everyone following it. This means it will reach websites that started subscribing to the group after the comment was originally posted. Boosting is how older content (where older basically means "from anytime before literally right now") spreads through the fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sorchist@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago So this is one of those things like git, where you can't explain how it works on the surface to a normal person because it barely even makes sense if you don't know about the underlying plumbing. :\ Not awesome, but I guess that's what you get when you graft a reddit-like experience onto a fediverse that was more or less invented for microblogging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Thank you so much for this explanation, it really helped some of this click for me. I don't use kbin, so the boosting isn't so relevant to me, but I'm beginning to understand some of how the federation works together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] density@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago is following individuals a common thing on lemmy/kbin? on reddit ti was possible but virtually nobody did it. all about the community not "influencers". What I want to do is sho approval to the OP and make the post more likely to float to the attention of someone who will want it.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 26 points 3 years ago (8 children) I believe it is more akin to 're-tweeting' for your followers. All boosts you boost are not private and everyone can see everything you have boosted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) How it's interpreted it is entirely up to the UI layer. On microblogs, it's surfaced as a retweet-like behaviour, but it's not surfaced at all here, really, except on kbin where it's used to report who has reboosted something. At its core, it's a republish button, and just as if you were to republish someone else's blog post on your own blog, people can see, if they look closely enough, that you've done it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artillect@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago If you follow someone on kbin, and they boost a thread, it'll show up in your feed. It's sorta like crossposting to your user page on reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Phlogiston@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (4 children) This makes sense — but if nobody knows it there is lots of room for confusion. “Boost” seems more like “updoot” than “retweet“. Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? The way content propagation works here is that someone using Website A follows a remote content source (either a user, or a group -- aka a "community" or a "magazine"), and the remote hosting website (let's call it Website B) sends all subsequent content from that source to Website A, where the requesting user can then view it. If someone from Website A was already following that content source, then they get to see all of the content that Website A had already received, and benefit from earlier users efforts. But if that person was the first from Website A to subscribe to that content source, then they only get future content. It's very similar to a, well, a magazine subscription in that way. NatGeo isn't sending you their 150 years worth of back catalogue when you subscribe in 2023 (not that you should bother subscribing to NatGeo in 2023). The 'boost' button republishes content, though. Posts, comments, whatever. Hitting 'boost' on a comment republishes it, and once republished the group actor (the little bot-like construct that functionally is the group) sees it as new content, and pushes it out to everyone following it. This means it will reach websites that started subscribing to the group after the comment was originally posted. Boosting is how older content (where older basically means "from anytime before literally right now") spreads through the fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sorchist@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago So this is one of those things like git, where you can't explain how it works on the surface to a normal person because it barely even makes sense if you don't know about the underlying plumbing. :\ Not awesome, but I guess that's what you get when you graft a reddit-like experience onto a fediverse that was more or less invented for microblogging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Thank you so much for this explanation, it really helped some of this click for me. I don't use kbin, so the boosting isn't so relevant to me, but I'm beginning to understand some of how the federation works together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] density@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago is following individuals a common thing on lemmy/kbin? on reddit ti was possible but virtually nobody did it. all about the community not "influencers". What I want to do is sho approval to the OP and make the post more likely to float to the attention of someone who will want it.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kichae@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) How it's interpreted it is entirely up to the UI layer. On microblogs, it's surfaced as a retweet-like behaviour, but it's not surfaced at all here, really, except on kbin where it's used to report who has reboosted something. At its core, it's a republish button, and just as if you were to republish someone else's blog post on your own blog, people can see, if they look closely enough, that you've done it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artillect@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago If you follow someone on kbin, and they boost a thread, it'll show up in your feed. It's sorta like crossposting to your user page on reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artillect@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago If you follow someone on kbin, and they boost a thread, it'll show up in your feed. It's sorta like crossposting to your user page on reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Phlogiston@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (4 children) This makes sense — but if nobody knows it there is lots of room for confusion. “Boost” seems more like “updoot” than “retweet“. Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? The way content propagation works here is that someone using Website A follows a remote content source (either a user, or a group -- aka a "community" or a "magazine"), and the remote hosting website (let's call it Website B) sends all subsequent content from that source to Website A, where the requesting user can then view it. If someone from Website A was already following that content source, then they get to see all of the content that Website A had already received, and benefit from earlier users efforts. But if that person was the first from Website A to subscribe to that content source, then they only get future content. It's very similar to a, well, a magazine subscription in that way. NatGeo isn't sending you their 150 years worth of back catalogue when you subscribe in 2023 (not that you should bother subscribing to NatGeo in 2023). The 'boost' button republishes content, though. Posts, comments, whatever. Hitting 'boost' on a comment republishes it, and once republished the group actor (the little bot-like construct that functionally is the group) sees it as new content, and pushes it out to everyone following it. This means it will reach websites that started subscribing to the group after the comment was originally posted. Boosting is how older content (where older basically means "from anytime before literally right now") spreads through the fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sorchist@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago So this is one of those things like git, where you can't explain how it works on the surface to a normal person because it barely even makes sense if you don't know about the underlying plumbing. :\ Not awesome, but I guess that's what you get when you graft a reddit-like experience onto a fediverse that was more or less invented for microblogging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Thank you so much for this explanation, it really helped some of this click for me. I don't use kbin, so the boosting isn't so relevant to me, but I'm beginning to understand some of how the federation works together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (3 children) Perhaps more importantly why would one retweet a comment? Rather than a post? The way content propagation works here is that someone using Website A follows a remote content source (either a user, or a group -- aka a "community" or a "magazine"), and the remote hosting website (let's call it Website B) sends all subsequent content from that source to Website A, where the requesting user can then view it. If someone from Website A was already following that content source, then they get to see all of the content that Website A had already received, and benefit from earlier users efforts. But if that person was the first from Website A to subscribe to that content source, then they only get future content. It's very similar to a, well, a magazine subscription in that way. NatGeo isn't sending you their 150 years worth of back catalogue when you subscribe in 2023 (not that you should bother subscribing to NatGeo in 2023). The 'boost' button republishes content, though. Posts, comments, whatever. Hitting 'boost' on a comment republishes it, and once republished the group actor (the little bot-like construct that functionally is the group) sees it as new content, and pushes it out to everyone following it. This means it will reach websites that started subscribing to the group after the comment was originally posted. Boosting is how older content (where older basically means "from anytime before literally right now") spreads through the fediverse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sorchist@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago So this is one of those things like git, where you can't explain how it works on the surface to a normal person because it barely even makes sense if you don't know about the underlying plumbing. :\ Not awesome, but I guess that's what you get when you graft a reddit-like experience onto a fediverse that was more or less invented for microblogging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Thank you so much for this explanation, it really helped some of this click for me. I don't use kbin, so the boosting isn't so relevant to me, but I'm beginning to understand some of how the federation works together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sorchist@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago So this is one of those things like git, where you can't explain how it works on the surface to a normal person because it barely even makes sense if you don't know about the underlying plumbing. :\ Not awesome, but I guess that's what you get when you graft a reddit-like experience onto a fediverse that was more or less invented for microblogging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Thank you so much for this explanation, it really helped some of this click for me. I don't use kbin, so the boosting isn't so relevant to me, but I'm beginning to understand some of how the federation works together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* I'm not sure how Lemmy syncs and backfill, but under its hood, I imagine it's doing the same thing, just automatically. Lemmy groups are really spammy with boosts when viewed from Mastodon, for instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] density@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago is following individuals a common thing on lemmy/kbin? on reddit ti was possible but virtually nobody did it. all about the community not "influencers". What I want to do is sho approval to the OP and make the post more likely to float to the attention of someone who will want it.. permalink fedilink source parent