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[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

You have a system in place that needs changed from the inside. Sitting outside of the system, and pouting that everyone isn't given a unicorn and a free E-bike isn't going to change anything.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Surprisingly enough, I vote in every primary and general election. Just because I don't agree with your "but our guy is better" thinking doesn't mean I opt out. You just need to hold yourself to a higher standard than you currently do. And stop thinking of politics as a team sport. Everyone in the ruling class needs to be held to a high standard, not just the guys wearing the opposite team colors.

[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 1 points 2 days ago

Good! You should vote in every election you can. Elections are games-theory in practice. You vote for the person doing the least amount of harm.

I don't think of politics as a team sport I think of politics as an act of pragmatism. You pick the people that will do the least amount of harm to the least amount of people.

That's always team Blue. So make of that what you will.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That's always team Blue

Yeah, and that's the permission structure I'm talking about. By refusing to hold one side to account so long as "they're the lesser evil", you get the ratchet effect. One team comes in, blows things up. The other team promises to fix it, gets elected, barely changes anything, and then loses again cause the other team correctly calls out that they aren't doing shit. Then the more blowing up of shit occurs.

In the lead up to 2020, Dems ran on a platform of campaign finance reform, addressing health care, addressing covid, and affordability. They failed to address the first, second, and fourth. They technically eeked by on the third, in that they failed in an unspectacular way (COVID became endemic, with a vaccine).

In 2024, after failing to address anything they were elected for, they simply said "we're not as bad as that guy".

After LOSING 2024, their postmortem was basically "We did everything perfect, it's hard for returning parties to win without an incumbent"

Obama is a war criminal and should be in the Hague. Trump is also a war criminal, in addition to a bunch of other fucked up shit, and should also be in the Hague.

[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah sure dealing with a global pandemic, and the externalities that are directly caused by such a thing, are kind of important before you start doing other stuff.

trump fucking cheated in the last election, so sure, if you're looking at your post-mortem and the dems made lemonade with Biden being forced out then yeah, you're going to say as much.

[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago

You fucked up your comparison in that last sentence, so maybe the better part of your comment got lost:

You vote for the person doing the least amount of harm.

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