It’s a democracy and primaries exist. If “the people” vote for a shitty candidate in the primaries, then that’s on them.
Victim blaming. The entire primary process is, like every other structure in the country, designed by the elite to maintain their power. It's been that way since the founding. The goal is the image of legitimacy and disempowerment of the masses.
You’re acting as if the pro Palestine position is near universal and the democrats are just saying no for no reason (or corruption/malice whatever) but the reality is most of the voter base either doesn’t give a shit about Palestine or is probably Israel.
So you're saying that if the majority of voters want genocide, then that's the position the Ds should hold, and those of us opposed should just suck it up and vote for them because if we don't.... their opponents will win.... Do you realize what you're even saying?
And that’s kind of my whole point. Those people vote, so if pro Palestine people don’t vote then you don’t get prop Palestine candidates, so it’s a self fulfilling prophecy.
Almost like voting doesn't matter because what's going to happen is whatever the elite ruling class wants to happen.
Yes politicians overwhelmingly represent corporate interests, but acting like there is 0 political pressure from actual voters is nonsense. Not voting is giving tacit approval for the politicians to only care about the ekete or the other side.
In a different thread we discussed the changes that occurred in the country's past. Women's suffrage came up. It's pretty obvious that women got the vote by applying pressure outside the ballot box. The same is true for civil rights. Nixon had to give ground on civil rights because of what was happening outside the ballot box, not inside. In fact, he and his administration deliberately disenfranchised people through the war on drugs (which every single subsequent administration enhanced). Because it turns out that they control how the voting system works.
Trump didn’t run against Obama.
Then perhaps you're not paying attention to the point, which is that the party affiliation doesn't reduce harm, and that people who believe in the goodness of Ds deliberately ignore the immense harm Ds have done and continue to do.
we see that the US hasn’t actually engaged directly in Palestine but rather Israel has done all of the work
So that applied to Biden too?
Yes, Biden didn't engage directly in Palestine. Israel did all the work. Both Trump and Biden, both Ds and Rs in Congress, participate merely by sending more and more weapons, money, and training to Israel regardless of what they do. Biden openly supported the genocide, Trump openly supported the genocide. No harm was reduced nor increased based on voting.
And now you’re back to claiming the US is responsible for the genocide.
The US is responsible for genocide because they have provided unending support for Israel regardless of their actions. Trump didn't make it worse, Biden didn't make it better. The fact that you can't see this makes it look like you're just interested in attaching your favorite brand to an issue that people care deeply about in order to win points.
You’re starting to sound like a MAGA.
Such a thought terminating cliche.