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Meta So Desperate for Compute That It’s Building “Data Centers” That Are Just Tents Filled With AI Chips (tech.yahoo.com)
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[–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Reading that China is quite advanced in AI also, and if these things are related, how are they handling things like data centers over there? Or are they not related?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    China has a very different climate and landmass. The reason these companies keep trying to make datacenters in places where they'll use all the water the residents need to survive, is because those places are the cheapest to build and opperate. Land in the desert is dirt-cheap (lol). China doesn't have to build in the desert to build on cheap land, and so can build pretty much whereever they feel like it, including where water and electricity isn't an issue.

    Also, they've shown before that they don't really have to give a shit about the lives of local residents. They probably (maybe) don't want them to die, but relocation is always an option.

    In the end we probably don't know wether people are pissed about it or not, since we don't get a lot of news from rural China.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Also, they’ve shown before that they don’t really have to give a shit about the lives of local residents. They probably (maybe) don’t want them to die, but relocation is always an option.

    Learn US history a little. Read about the flooding of the Ozarks and hundreds of other regions of the US to build power dams.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    China does build datacenters in desert next to solar farms. Water access is overblown, because it can use a closed loop system where water is trucked in from somewhere it is more abundant. Cooling in desert is more expensive, but China has abundant cheap power. It is unfair to say the US is only place that cares about it's people, when it is the most corrupt country in history that cares the least about popular welfare. China's drive for abundance is a populist drive. US scarcity profit maximizing mindset is the opposite.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I never meant to say USA cares about it's people, but it needs to have a sizable portion of the people at least think it does.

    Most corrupt country in history though. I will absolutely need to see some source for that claim. Yes they're a bunch of corrupt pieces of shit, but thinking they're more corrupt than every monarchy throughout the ages? Were the ancient eqgyptians less corrupt? Or how about the current government of the Republic of Congo? Are we sure the current US administration is more corrupt than all of those? I'm not convinced.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Monarchies over the ages are a bad example, because there was a sustainability mandate to pass off a good country as inheritence to heirs. A candidate for worse countries would be Idi Amin, and US allies, but for US allies, their alliance is forced due to CIA coups/colour revolutions, and the scale of Idi Amin's pillage is a million x lower. The utter oligarchist/corporatist supremacist nazi economics and geopolitics of US, together with the pure Israel/Zionazi capture of every elected official is a corruption that is beyond any other in both scale, and in fundamentally voluntary complicit bribery scheme for pure bribery value, excluding Mossad operations such as Epstein. The late stage empire pillaging stage is next level. That Congo arrests officials for corruption proves low levels of extended corruption. ie. punishments happen.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago*

    Lots of statesponsored datacenters being build in China. And of course with no way to say no to those.

    And a majority of domestically produced Chinese RAM-chips are being funneled into Chinese datacenters (by government mandate).

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