▲ 349 ▼ Valve antitrust lawsuit reportedly reveals lengths Steam owner is willing to go to prevent cheaper prices elsewhere (www.eurogamer.net) submitted 2 months ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 519 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago (2 children) That is true, definitely a "lesser evil" situation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] i_am_tired_boss@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 child) Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago Go to sleep permalink fedilink source parent [+] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -12 points 2 months ago (1 child) And in this specific situation, it's valve doing the evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children) Raising the price of video games artificially by abusing their market position to force other storefronts to also raise their prices... Like the suit you didn't read says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) stop acting like prices going down wasnt a play that long term wouldnt result in fucking consumers, stupid to trust ubi how long has epic games been running on negative profits? walmart was cheaper than local grocery stores once too supporting a false race to the bottom is some silly shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Valve prints money doing next to nothing. Hundreds of people spend years of their lives building a fun game, and almost a third of the revenue just goes to the company who owns the server in the corner that said Dev team loaded it onto, themselves. Dev team sets the prices, Dev team makes all promotional material. What does valve do? Makes a couple graphics for their bimonthly big sales events theme. What race to the bottom? This was a game developer that made their own drm that was so successful they basically just stopped making games. They're charge retail margin prices despite being able to sell thousands of times more copies from the same building footprint. Epic games is losing money because they're giving away hundreds of games instead of selling them. They're trying to buy market share from the monopoly. Not from running the store itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) This is the worst comment I read today, congrats. What in the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) in what world demanding price parity equals raising the price of video games artificially? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* It's called a cartel, it's illegal, look it up, and stop being a fanboy for some corporation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_am_tired_boss@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 child) Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago Go to sleep permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -12 points 2 months ago (1 child) And in this specific situation, it's valve doing the evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children) Raising the price of video games artificially by abusing their market position to force other storefronts to also raise their prices... Like the suit you didn't read says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) stop acting like prices going down wasnt a play that long term wouldnt result in fucking consumers, stupid to trust ubi how long has epic games been running on negative profits? walmart was cheaper than local grocery stores once too supporting a false race to the bottom is some silly shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Valve prints money doing next to nothing. Hundreds of people spend years of their lives building a fun game, and almost a third of the revenue just goes to the company who owns the server in the corner that said Dev team loaded it onto, themselves. Dev team sets the prices, Dev team makes all promotional material. What does valve do? Makes a couple graphics for their bimonthly big sales events theme. What race to the bottom? This was a game developer that made their own drm that was so successful they basically just stopped making games. They're charge retail margin prices despite being able to sell thousands of times more copies from the same building footprint. Epic games is losing money because they're giving away hundreds of games instead of selling them. They're trying to buy market share from the monopoly. Not from running the store itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) This is the worst comment I read today, congrats. What in the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) in what world demanding price parity equals raising the price of video games artificially? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* It's called a cartel, it's illegal, look it up, and stop being a fanboy for some corporation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children) Raising the price of video games artificially by abusing their market position to force other storefronts to also raise their prices... Like the suit you didn't read says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) stop acting like prices going down wasnt a play that long term wouldnt result in fucking consumers, stupid to trust ubi how long has epic games been running on negative profits? walmart was cheaper than local grocery stores once too supporting a false race to the bottom is some silly shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Valve prints money doing next to nothing. Hundreds of people spend years of their lives building a fun game, and almost a third of the revenue just goes to the company who owns the server in the corner that said Dev team loaded it onto, themselves. Dev team sets the prices, Dev team makes all promotional material. What does valve do? Makes a couple graphics for their bimonthly big sales events theme. What race to the bottom? This was a game developer that made their own drm that was so successful they basically just stopped making games. They're charge retail margin prices despite being able to sell thousands of times more copies from the same building footprint. Epic games is losing money because they're giving away hundreds of games instead of selling them. They're trying to buy market share from the monopoly. Not from running the store itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) This is the worst comment I read today, congrats. What in the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) in what world demanding price parity equals raising the price of video games artificially? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* It's called a cartel, it's illegal, look it up, and stop being a fanboy for some corporation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (2 children) Raising the price of video games artificially by abusing their market position to force other storefronts to also raise their prices... Like the suit you didn't read says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) stop acting like prices going down wasnt a play that long term wouldnt result in fucking consumers, stupid to trust ubi how long has epic games been running on negative profits? walmart was cheaper than local grocery stores once too supporting a false race to the bottom is some silly shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Valve prints money doing next to nothing. Hundreds of people spend years of their lives building a fun game, and almost a third of the revenue just goes to the company who owns the server in the corner that said Dev team loaded it onto, themselves. Dev team sets the prices, Dev team makes all promotional material. What does valve do? Makes a couple graphics for their bimonthly big sales events theme. What race to the bottom? This was a game developer that made their own drm that was so successful they basically just stopped making games. They're charge retail margin prices despite being able to sell thousands of times more copies from the same building footprint. Epic games is losing money because they're giving away hundreds of games instead of selling them. They're trying to buy market share from the monopoly. Not from running the store itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) This is the worst comment I read today, congrats. What in the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) in what world demanding price parity equals raising the price of video games artificially? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* It's called a cartel, it's illegal, look it up, and stop being a fanboy for some corporation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) stop acting like prices going down wasnt a play that long term wouldnt result in fucking consumers, stupid to trust ubi how long has epic games been running on negative profits? walmart was cheaper than local grocery stores once too supporting a false race to the bottom is some silly shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Valve prints money doing next to nothing. Hundreds of people spend years of their lives building a fun game, and almost a third of the revenue just goes to the company who owns the server in the corner that said Dev team loaded it onto, themselves. Dev team sets the prices, Dev team makes all promotional material. What does valve do? Makes a couple graphics for their bimonthly big sales events theme. What race to the bottom? This was a game developer that made their own drm that was so successful they basically just stopped making games. They're charge retail margin prices despite being able to sell thousands of times more copies from the same building footprint. Epic games is losing money because they're giving away hundreds of games instead of selling them. They're trying to buy market share from the monopoly. Not from running the store itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) This is the worst comment I read today, congrats. What in the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Valve prints money doing next to nothing. Hundreds of people spend years of their lives building a fun game, and almost a third of the revenue just goes to the company who owns the server in the corner that said Dev team loaded it onto, themselves. Dev team sets the prices, Dev team makes all promotional material. What does valve do? Makes a couple graphics for their bimonthly big sales events theme. What race to the bottom? This was a game developer that made their own drm that was so successful they basically just stopped making games. They're charge retail margin prices despite being able to sell thousands of times more copies from the same building footprint. Epic games is losing money because they're giving away hundreds of games instead of selling them. They're trying to buy market share from the monopoly. Not from running the store itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child) lol i can already tell you were not alive pre valve if this is all you think it’s done the race to the bottom of shit services being cheaper in the short run trying to compete with valve but once valve was say not there would be ripping you off, Epic specifically boo hoo 30% as to Epic operating at loss, i know how it works that’s my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) My steam account is old enough to vote. I'm just not a dumbass like the taint lickers in here cheering on a multi billion dollar company making their hobby artificially more expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* then how the fuck are you blind to everything steam has done for pc gaming? even now valve is literally fighting for consumer rights against payment processor censorship and pretty much single handedly advancing gaming on linux lol at artificially, if you think epic and ubi are long term positives for consumers you’re an idiot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] passenger@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (1 child) This is the worst comment I read today, congrats. What in the world... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago yay for you? who actually cares about some randos opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) in what world demanding price parity equals raising the price of video games artificially? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* It's called a cartel, it's illegal, look it up, and stop being a fanboy for some corporation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* It's called a cartel, it's illegal, look it up, and stop being a fanboy for some corporation permalink fedilink source parent