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Don't let the perfect(no genocide) become the enemy of good(controlled genocide). (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 4 months ago* by to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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[–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

Yes, my point is that while democrats will also support Israel until forced not to, and while it's monstrous not to intervene without being forced, if we're going to have to try to force someone, I think we have better odds with the democrats. Still shit odds, don't get me wrong, but when you're trying to stop a genocide, you stack the deck however you can and in as many ways as you can until you can force the outcome you want.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    when you’re trying to stop a genocide, you stack the deck however you can and in as many ways as you can until you can force the outcome you want.

    When you're trying to stop a genocide you don't vote for parties that will continue it.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    And as a result of that, Gaza is slowed down but still going, the US invaded Iran, gave Israel cover to invade Lebanon, abducted the leader of Venezuela, and may be preparing to invade Cuba. In exchange, the Democrats fought tooth and nail to not release the election autopsy report, they refused to acknowledge Gaza cost them, and they've made no move to pivot towards support. It sounds nice in a vacuum, but it sure looks like we traded a worse situation in exchange for... Basically nothing.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm doing my part to force Democrats to stop supporting genocide, by refusing to vote for them until they stop supporting genocide

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well let's look at how that worked out for us. Democrats lost, and Gaza was most likely at least a significant factor. Did the Democrats release the election autopsy report without fighting it tooth and nail for weeks? No. Did they acknowledge that failing to support Gaza caused problems for them? No. Have they shown that they're in any way attempting to pivot away from supporting Israel? No.

    As long as we prove we're willing to elect rightwing candidates, Democrats will continue pandering to centrists and former Republicans. Democrats will move left when we prove that moving to the right nonviable, not when we elect a Republican every time a Democrat doesn't go left enough.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Well let's look at how that worked out for us.

    YOU KEEP REPEATING THIS FUCKING LINE SHUT THE FUCK UP. You have been told repeatedly why you are fucking wrong and you keep up this smug ass fucking attitude like you have it all figured out and you're the smartest person in the room. You don't. You're not. Humble yourself and take a long look in the mirror at how you can justify voting for people that vowed to do all of this and more. Fuck you.

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