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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 41 points 21 hours ago

Yeah as the article notes people have switched to nicotine pouches to get their fix. Which are better because they don't produce smoke and lung cancer, but they can still give you other oral cancers and dental diseases. If anything they're probably worse in that aspect due to being constantly pressed against the gums and lips. But at least they're smokeless.

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well, the pouches do not produce smoke is a plus, but it's disgusting. They spit them out during meetings to replace immediately with a new. They are in wastbaskets, on the street. Gross. For what i understood from dentist & doctors (standard question: do you drink, smoke, snuss) it's much worse than smoking. For the user that is, not their environment

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 9 points 11 hours ago

Not to mention the littering problem is even worse than with cigarette butts.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

Are they not biodegradable? The claim is that cigarette filters can’t be biodegradable (or no one forced them to), but why wouldn’t these be?

Not that it’s an excuse for littering, but we ought to be able to mitigate the harm a bit

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 hours ago

it's somewhat nice to not risk fires breaking out, though.

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 23 points 20 hours ago

https://www.healthline.com/health/quit-smoking/does-zyn-cause-mouth-cancer#other-risks-and-side-effects

More research is needed. Nicotine on its own is not cancerous. Tobacco is. Nicotine pouches that aren't tobacco might carry much lower risks, but there is other stuff in them.

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 13 points 20 hours ago

The only known negatives with nicotine is that it's apparently a bit stressful for the heart. So it's still good to avoid taking it, but if you're going to take nicotine anyways, it's the safest delivery method.

Do other countries also have an ingredients list on nicotine pouches? Sweden has always had it (even on snus), as it's classified as a food product. I've always found it interesting that a product that shouldn't be swallowed has an ingredients list, but products that "should" be swallowed (such as alcohol) doesn't.

[-] untorquer@quokk.au 7 points 12 hours ago

It's the whole coronary system not just the heart. It also comes with the same swath of possible symptoms as most stimulants including high blood pressure, stress/anxiety, etc.

That said, IMO the biggest issue is the litter. Used pouches should go into the trash can and away from animals.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 hours ago

well you are putting it in your mouth, so you're effectively swallowing parts of it.

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 5 points 16 hours ago

I don't think the US has strict regulations on the ingredients... I don't know why, likely lobbyist behavior, but also I think people just accept that if you smoke you don't give a shit and it's unhealthy by default, so it's not a big deal if they add chemicals.

Which becomes more ridiculous with nicotine pouches for this reason. Nicotine isn't cancerous, so it would be super shitty to add carcinogens in the pouches and then claim it's a tobacco product so you should expect it.

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Vaping is very possibly much less unhealthy than chewing tobacco, but of course we don't have long term studies yet

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 6 points 19 hours ago

Nicotine pouches isn't chewing tobacco. Chewing tobacco is one of the most unhealthiest ways to consume nicotine.

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 18 points 21 hours ago

That was my problem with replacing cigarettes with vaping, it worked great but you can literally use it all the time, so I was just puffing constantly when I was sitting, bathroom at work, airports, etc etc. and I don't think a coating of vegetable glycerine on your lungs is any better tbh. I feel great after quitting that too.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 15 points 20 hours ago

At least with vaping you can taper off the nicotine.

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 13 points 20 hours ago

Yeah that was nice, went from 12>8>6mg

[-] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

I mixed my own liquid so I was able to go down to 4, 3, 2, 1, then 0.75, 0.5, down to like 0.25 and lower I think

I was such a fiend that lowering the nicotine meant I would just hit it harder and more often for longer lol but once you get sub 1mg you literally cant hit it fast enough to feel satisfied even if you spend hours chain vaping 🤣

I also had a RDA that put out massive clouds though so that didnt help with moderation lol

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -2 points 11 hours ago

It is actually basic and contains xylitol which is good for oral health. No link has been found to oral cancer. I don't understand where you get those facts from?

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