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[-] obre@slrpnk.net 58 points 2 days ago

1.00 • 1 death = 1 death Vs. 0.25 • 5 deaths = 1.25 deaths

On average you're better off not pulling the lever.

[-] McGuirk808@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Look at it selfishly:

  • 100% chance of killing someone
  • 25% chance of killing someone

Pulling the level is the only way to have a shot at not being saddled with the guilt of killing someone. Sure, killing 5 people is worse than killing 1, but avoiding that personal impact entirely is a desirable goal in and of itself.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

This was my thought too, initially, but then I remembered that the first possibility happens through inaction. So I guess it depends on whether or not the person sees that as them killing someone

[-] McGuirk808@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I can't say what is objectively true, but I can say that if I were in that situation, I absolutely would feel responsible for the outcome if I could have reasonably affected it.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Implying you'll be running this multiple times?

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

The number of attempts is not mathematically affecting the outcome of a single attempts - statistics don't "owe you" any specific outcomes, just based on previous outcomes. It will be the same formula for each

[-] ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Statistics also won't help you with the guilt when the tram runs over 5 people and now it's just you and the one guy you saved now trauma bonded.

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

I'm not the idiot who tues people to train tracks. I won't be feeling much guilt

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

What if, by taking some seemingly benign action, followed by a series of unforeseeable events, you have caused the people to be on the train tracks?

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Hey I'm not an idiot.

[-] Enekk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Actually, in this case, unless they are... refilling... the hostages each run, the results of previous runs do affect each additional run. Unless you feel that running someone over the second time kills them a second time.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

"aww damn, 5 people are double dead"

[-] someone@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am not sure this is technically true if the probabilities have any dependence.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I didn't need math to know that the only way I see a guy beheaded is if I don't pull the lever, so we got to the same answer.

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

If you don't, you will, look at the post again

[-] obre@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

Implying I haven't already

[-] someone@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

These are not independent probabilities and we can't disregard the initial mathematical data (unless I'm wrong, not a stat major).

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