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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bernie is a socdem at best, not a demsoc

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I consider socdems to be barely better than liberals.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socdems ARE liberals, what they advocate for is not socialism, but "Welfare Capitalism"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree. I'm just talking about how Social Democrats at least on paper recognize some of the problems of capitalism. They just downplay them, which is a step above standard neoliberals. They just don't follow it to the logical conclusion. I would consider Demsocs to be a bit better than SocDems, but in my opinion the difference between SocDems and socialists should be or seems to be a bigger relative jump than between DemSocs and socialists. Maybe I'm phrasing this wrong.

Because with Democratic Socialism, you already have a foot in the door, and with SocDems, its a way bigger jump.