"Why yes, my overpriced fake leather nostolgiabait shoes that have nothing in it, dont come in wide, and gives people pla tar fasciitis is muxh better than the other overpriced fake leather hipsterbait shoe!!!!"

And then kids will literally screech in the damn store if they dont get their shitty nike shoe, becayse its about the NAME of the BRAND!!!

FUCK OFF SNEAKERHEADS YOU ALL SUCK!!!

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[+] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (32 children)
  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (30 children)

    "Dumb" actually can be argued to be ableist in its etymology since it comes from people who couldn't speak (similar to "Lame"). If anything dumb is worse than stupid is.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (8 children)

    There’s a history of bigotry behind every word in the English language. It’s a language made by and for bigots. A language forged in the fire of colonial world domination and liberal rationalism that justified it. I’m sorry but you will never escape using words that have a history of bigotry behind them if you speak English and live in the west. If you keep cutting out words you will just be left stunted and unable to communicate without sounding like a total dork and still be speaking the language of colonizers anyway, just speaking oddly.

    To be clear, this isn’t a carte blanche to just drop whatever slurs you want. You obviously still should be mindful to not be insulting and offensive and gross. However, where are the massive populations of people who actually, really think that “stupid” is akin to the n-word or something and a slur? Nobody actually thinks that.

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  • [+] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)
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    The issue isn’t the hisotry of the word so much as the current implications.

    I agree with this, but you don't.

    I don’t feel bad at the prospect on losing insults with a history of bigotry behind them

    So which is it? Does historical etymology matter or does current use and meaning? Again, the vast majority of people do not find "Stupid" to be a bigoted phrase associated bigotry. The current, descriptivist definition in how it's actually used is not bigoted so you criticized it on it's history. Then you say the history doesn't matter but how it's used?

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  • [+] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    I'm not descriptivist

    Updooted on hooxbear, never thought I'd see the day of the prescriptivists

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    It is probably better in the long run if we develop ways of expressing ourselves without insults tbh

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    "You can't do anything if you can't do everything"

    You sure sound like a chud, or a redditor.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO NO MATTER HOW LITTLE EFFORT IT WOULD TAKE TO IMPROVE SOMEWHAT frothingfash

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (12 children)

    Really, I wouldn't have dreamed I would see someone getting dogpiled for this take, which would have been uncontroversial here 2 months ago. Federation has been a disaster for hexbear culture yea

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    I'm a 6-month user here and the OP of this silly take is a federated user so it seems you're confused

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    I'm a three year user here and I'm definitely not confused. The incidence of ableist language has gone up significantly since federation.

    The comments defending the ableist term have since been removed. I don't know what the significance of the op being from lemmygrad is supposed to be.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    For the purpose of talking past you:
    There's thoughtlessly using a minor ableist term, and then there's doubling down and defending it's use when asked not to.

    Having an ableist mindset is not only harmful to your comrades but also harmful to our movement itself.

    An ableist mindset:

    • Takes the blame off of the real problem, being a chud's reactionary immature, uninformed mindset, and clouds your ability to react to it in the most useful way.
    • Is not solidarity.
    • Encourages calipers shit.

    You see chuds saying shit like:

    spoilerPlay stupid games win stupid prizes
    When people get conned, which assuming they are in fact less abled, implies that that makes it okay to steal from them, as if they don't have an equal need to eat and have shelter. That's what this is playing in to.

    You can insult people without being reactionary. If you find that difficult it is your own skill issue not "tone policing"

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

    It's your skill issue too as demonstrated in your post history. Rules for me but not for thee, and "reaction" is when you point this out instead of just knee-jerk banning 3 year users for the same crime as you also commit. Again "doubling down" is when people disagree with you instead of just crumpling to your one-sided attacks that are not evenly applied.

    I am evidently talking past you because you cannot address the core issue here. Every user on this website says stupid, and uses insults. You are ignoring the elephant in the room here if you really thought this was really an ableist slur you would need to escalate your crusade considerably and not just against me.

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    The more books you read, the more stupid you become.

    -Mao Zedong

    Everyone has the right to be stupid on occasion, but Comrade MacDonald abuses the privilege

    -Trotsky

    Private property has made us so stupid and one-sided that an object is only ours when we have it – when it exists for us as capital, or when it is directly possessed, eaten, drunk, worn, inhabited, etc., – in short, when it is used by us.

    -Marx

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    You owned me so good walter-breakdown

    For an encore; ask them their opinion on gay men.

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    Es estúpido el poderío militar de la OTAN

    -Fidel Castro, here's a man who reformed on LGBT+ rights and still called NATO military stupid in 2011. Lead the revolution that's at the forefront of global LGBT+ rights. I can find you a Diaz-Canel quote too if you like. Xi and KJU as well probably. Because literally everyone says stupid

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Oh no are we going to lose people?
    mao-wave bye then!

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    https://hexbear.net/comment/3420829

    "stupid shiny buttons"

    bye bye to you too! my point proven in literally 20 seconds of browsing your history. Let's ban everyone

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Well, I appreciate the sentiment even if others don't and they do raise concerns which need to be addressed. In linguistics you can do a "linguistic corpus analysis" which is sorta seeing historically how language was used. If it's unambiguously used towards say disenfranchised individuals, or towards a group of people who are the ire at the time (think muslims or anyone from south asia or the middle east post 9/11, if there's a huge spike in usage with sentences including the word 'muslim' or 'terrorist', etc.) I think there's a good argument to be made. Otherwise it seems difficult to convince others it's a good idea.

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