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They just formed the biggest tech worker union in the US. The plan is to take on AI and industry layoffs (www.bloodinthemachine.com)
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[–] 70 points 3 months ago (22 children)

There are tens of millions of tech jobs, the vast, vast majority of which is doing boring stuff like running the websites you visit.

...and then in their free time some create platforms like the one you're on roght now, for free. So the generalization you made therr isn't that appreciated.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    And they create the open source software in their free time that then gets abused by big tech.

    I'm struggling to get the downvotes. Can someone explain how this is not the case in our world? MongoDB had to change their license because AWS would fuck them over. cURL and OpenSSL are used by all of them without much help, Bambu (OK, not really big tech) fucks the AGPL, Microsoft fucks everyone, all AI companies rob open source code...

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  • [+] -26 points 3 months ago* (18 children)

    the vast, vast majority of which is doing boring stuff like running the websites you visit.

    And a lot of the Nazis also did administrative work.

    That does not make it ok. You don't get to pretend you're not part of the problem simply because "well I need a job".

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Yeah, but not all administrative work is for Nazi Germany, that's his point. Unicef has a website, not sure I could confidently call their engineers Nazis.

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  • [+] -22 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    I think you misunderstood. I didn't suggest all administrators were Nazis.

    I was saying that administrators existed in the Nazi regime, and they are not excused simply because they never personally pulled a trigger.

    My point was about people working in the tech industry, not sure why you're bringing up UNICEF

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Their point is it's a job title and working for the worst offenders in big tech isn't entailed in that. You can work in tech by writing surveillance software for Palantir or you can work in tech by being the website admin for UNICEF. Both are tech workers, but only one is part of the problem.

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  • [+] -12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    And I was talking about the ones who work for places like Palantir

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    And some steel workers wild tanks, some auto workers are contracted for government vehicles, email providers facilitate global pedophile rings.

    It's weird to make the claim in general because... yeah, every job might have people doing evil things in some section of the industry. Tearing down unions only supports the rich and the evil

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Where was I "tearing down unions"?

    Steel is an amoral building material

    So, what are some good things Palantir does that makes it comparable? Isn't that the implication here? Steel is neither good nor bad, but it can be used to make bad things.

    So I would love to hear how Palantir is similar. How is Palantir neither good nor bad?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Dude just stop embarrassing yourself

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh please, explain to me why I should be embarrassed! Thanks in advance

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You have a whole thread of people telling you.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    I really don't.

    Are you seriously this thrown off by, "the Nazis tried to use the same defense and it (rightfully) didn't work?"

    But please, why should I be embarrassed? I'm super curious.

    Here's a hint: the part about being in a union is irrelevant to me. If you work for Palantir, then you can go fuck yourself. There is no excusing it.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Hi, let me introduce you to Godwin's Law, because you're apparently new to arguing on the internet. Sadly, at this time, you have lost any possible good faith as your argument is dumb.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    In 2021, Harvard researchers published an article showing that the Nazi-comparison phenomenon does not occur with statistically meaningful frequency in Reddit discussions

    While it's certainly overused, and that is trivializing and harmful; turning nazi comparisons into an immediate eye roll is also harmful.

    I can't even count how many times leading up to 2024 that I tried explaining to people the glaring similarities between Hitler's rise to power, his ideology, propaganda, and intentions, and those of the nascent trump administration; and people would just write me off as some hyperbolizing troglodyte.

    Now we're in 2026 and people are finally starting to see the similarities. Too late.

    Of course, the user you're responding to is an idiot and misapplying the analogy by making an overly broad generalization intended to harm the unionizing movement. So that's pretty asinine and contributes to the eye-roll phenomenon.

    But I still question how helpful this "Godwin's Law" is as a concept. Seems like something the Knesset would use to evade nazi comparisons...

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Holy shit thank you for introducing this ancient Internet history to me!!

    Imagine thinking Godwin's Law still applied in 2026. We have literal fucking Nazis running the United States

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    When you make a factually sound argument with legitimate comparisons to actual Nazis, it's not Godwin's. But comparing unions to Nazis is corpo-propaganda at it's best.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    I didn't compare unions to anything, I compared people who are doing evil shit for evil corporations.

    I don't care that they're in a union, they are part of the problem and there is zero excuse for it.

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