▲ 168 ▼ Not too much to ask for (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 months ago by Picasso@sh.itjust.works [M] to c/Couplememes@sh.itjust.works 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 months ago (3 children) Stonewalling your partner isn't good practice either. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children) Being upset for a bit and keeping to yourself is fine but expecting a partner to always clue in isn't ideal. When you're with a good partner you should be comfortable and confident to address your own problems with them. If they clue in before that great but you should be making your problems known if the problems are messing up your day that badly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) This says nothing about expecting your partner to pick up on it. It's implied they have already picked up on it and are now reacting. All it is saying is they want a partner to react with empathy, not with entitlement or annoyance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) If the person who is in a bad mood is pouting and moping around and waiting for their partner to ask instead of being honest about how they feel, then they're being toxic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (9 children) Interesting how you took, "being quiet" as moping and expecting a partner to pick up on it. That is not said in the tweet. At all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies) [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago Couldn't have said it better myself! permalink fedilink source parent [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 9 points 3 months ago* (31 children) The tweet says nothing about stonewalling anyone. Being quiet isn't stonewalling. It's being quiet. It only says they want a partner that cares 'why'. That says absolutely nothing about how and when a conversation might happen. They want a partner that reacts with empathy, not entitlement to your person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments load more comments (31 replies) [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) While you're certainly not wrong, I don't think they were talking about stonewalling or anything done with intent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Exuding a bad mood until your partner is forced to ask you why you're acting that way isn't healthy in my opinion. You're allowed to have different opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Again, I don't disagree with you. However, where is it said that this is specifically what they mean? I feel like we must be reading something different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It depends on how you read OP acting differently when they're in a presumably bad mood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago To me, it depends on whether you plan on having a good faith interpretation of what they said or not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child) especially when i was younger, but sometimes still nowadays, one of us would sometimes have a really bad day for a really inane reason that seemed like the world at the time, and learning to communicate that is difficult. especially with autism and dissociative identity disorder. sometimes memories aren't available, sometimes it's difficult to talk about. sometimes the partner did something by accident that upset the entire day. sometimes the bad thing is that your partner ate all your ice cream in the freezer and you really wanted some mango ice cream, except it was just a dream. what the hell. when you're emotionally charged, things just get more difficult. nonviolent communication can be a great tool, but it requires some amount of emotional availability and fluency and patience that takes effort to build up over years. talking through can take hours and days and weeks even now. nowadays it's mostly automatic that we talk about everything, but in the beginning exuding a bad day was natural for me because i grew up in a dysfunctional family, and my partner also had to learn a lot. a therapist helped a ton, though of course therapists vary wildly in quality, suitability and of course price depending on the region. i think people can change a lot too. there's always some variability with people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I completely agree that people can change and grow out of unhealthy coping methods. It's very understandable how people get to that point! I'm sorry you had a rough go initially, but that's awesome that it's better now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago i just wanted to humanize having an unnecessarily bad day. it's not that bad, and it can change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children) Being upset for a bit and keeping to yourself is fine but expecting a partner to always clue in isn't ideal. When you're with a good partner you should be comfortable and confident to address your own problems with them. If they clue in before that great but you should be making your problems known if the problems are messing up your day that badly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) This says nothing about expecting your partner to pick up on it. It's implied they have already picked up on it and are now reacting. All it is saying is they want a partner to react with empathy, not with entitlement or annoyance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) If the person who is in a bad mood is pouting and moping around and waiting for their partner to ask instead of being honest about how they feel, then they're being toxic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (9 children) Interesting how you took, "being quiet" as moping and expecting a partner to pick up on it. That is not said in the tweet. At all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies) [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago Couldn't have said it better myself! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) This says nothing about expecting your partner to pick up on it. It's implied they have already picked up on it and are now reacting. All it is saying is they want a partner to react with empathy, not with entitlement or annoyance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) If the person who is in a bad mood is pouting and moping around and waiting for their partner to ask instead of being honest about how they feel, then they're being toxic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (9 children) Interesting how you took, "being quiet" as moping and expecting a partner to pick up on it. That is not said in the tweet. At all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies)
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) If the person who is in a bad mood is pouting and moping around and waiting for their partner to ask instead of being honest about how they feel, then they're being toxic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (9 children) Interesting how you took, "being quiet" as moping and expecting a partner to pick up on it. That is not said in the tweet. At all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies)
[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (9 children) Interesting how you took, "being quiet" as moping and expecting a partner to pick up on it. That is not said in the tweet. At all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments load more comments (9 replies)
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago Couldn't have said it better myself! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 9 points 3 months ago* (31 children) The tweet says nothing about stonewalling anyone. Being quiet isn't stonewalling. It's being quiet. It only says they want a partner that cares 'why'. That says absolutely nothing about how and when a conversation might happen. They want a partner that reacts with empathy, not entitlement to your person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments load more comments (31 replies)
[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) While you're certainly not wrong, I don't think they were talking about stonewalling or anything done with intent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Exuding a bad mood until your partner is forced to ask you why you're acting that way isn't healthy in my opinion. You're allowed to have different opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Again, I don't disagree with you. However, where is it said that this is specifically what they mean? I feel like we must be reading something different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It depends on how you read OP acting differently when they're in a presumably bad mood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago To me, it depends on whether you plan on having a good faith interpretation of what they said or not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child) especially when i was younger, but sometimes still nowadays, one of us would sometimes have a really bad day for a really inane reason that seemed like the world at the time, and learning to communicate that is difficult. especially with autism and dissociative identity disorder. sometimes memories aren't available, sometimes it's difficult to talk about. sometimes the partner did something by accident that upset the entire day. sometimes the bad thing is that your partner ate all your ice cream in the freezer and you really wanted some mango ice cream, except it was just a dream. what the hell. when you're emotionally charged, things just get more difficult. nonviolent communication can be a great tool, but it requires some amount of emotional availability and fluency and patience that takes effort to build up over years. talking through can take hours and days and weeks even now. nowadays it's mostly automatic that we talk about everything, but in the beginning exuding a bad day was natural for me because i grew up in a dysfunctional family, and my partner also had to learn a lot. a therapist helped a ton, though of course therapists vary wildly in quality, suitability and of course price depending on the region. i think people can change a lot too. there's always some variability with people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I completely agree that people can change and grow out of unhealthy coping methods. It's very understandable how people get to that point! I'm sorry you had a rough go initially, but that's awesome that it's better now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago i just wanted to humanize having an unnecessarily bad day. it's not that bad, and it can change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago* (2 children) Exuding a bad mood until your partner is forced to ask you why you're acting that way isn't healthy in my opinion. You're allowed to have different opinions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Again, I don't disagree with you. However, where is it said that this is specifically what they mean? I feel like we must be reading something different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It depends on how you read OP acting differently when they're in a presumably bad mood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago To me, it depends on whether you plan on having a good faith interpretation of what they said or not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child) especially when i was younger, but sometimes still nowadays, one of us would sometimes have a really bad day for a really inane reason that seemed like the world at the time, and learning to communicate that is difficult. especially with autism and dissociative identity disorder. sometimes memories aren't available, sometimes it's difficult to talk about. sometimes the partner did something by accident that upset the entire day. sometimes the bad thing is that your partner ate all your ice cream in the freezer and you really wanted some mango ice cream, except it was just a dream. what the hell. when you're emotionally charged, things just get more difficult. nonviolent communication can be a great tool, but it requires some amount of emotional availability and fluency and patience that takes effort to build up over years. talking through can take hours and days and weeks even now. nowadays it's mostly automatic that we talk about everything, but in the beginning exuding a bad day was natural for me because i grew up in a dysfunctional family, and my partner also had to learn a lot. a therapist helped a ton, though of course therapists vary wildly in quality, suitability and of course price depending on the region. i think people can change a lot too. there's always some variability with people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I completely agree that people can change and grow out of unhealthy coping methods. It's very understandable how people get to that point! I'm sorry you had a rough go initially, but that's awesome that it's better now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago i just wanted to humanize having an unnecessarily bad day. it's not that bad, and it can change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Again, I don't disagree with you. However, where is it said that this is specifically what they mean? I feel like we must be reading something different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It depends on how you read OP acting differently when they're in a presumably bad mood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago To me, it depends on whether you plan on having a good faith interpretation of what they said or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) It depends on how you read OP acting differently when they're in a presumably bad mood. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago To me, it depends on whether you plan on having a good faith interpretation of what they said or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago To me, it depends on whether you plan on having a good faith interpretation of what they said or not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child) especially when i was younger, but sometimes still nowadays, one of us would sometimes have a really bad day for a really inane reason that seemed like the world at the time, and learning to communicate that is difficult. especially with autism and dissociative identity disorder. sometimes memories aren't available, sometimes it's difficult to talk about. sometimes the partner did something by accident that upset the entire day. sometimes the bad thing is that your partner ate all your ice cream in the freezer and you really wanted some mango ice cream, except it was just a dream. what the hell. when you're emotionally charged, things just get more difficult. nonviolent communication can be a great tool, but it requires some amount of emotional availability and fluency and patience that takes effort to build up over years. talking through can take hours and days and weeks even now. nowadays it's mostly automatic that we talk about everything, but in the beginning exuding a bad day was natural for me because i grew up in a dysfunctional family, and my partner also had to learn a lot. a therapist helped a ton, though of course therapists vary wildly in quality, suitability and of course price depending on the region. i think people can change a lot too. there's always some variability with people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I completely agree that people can change and grow out of unhealthy coping methods. It's very understandable how people get to that point! I'm sorry you had a rough go initially, but that's awesome that it's better now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago i just wanted to humanize having an unnecessarily bad day. it's not that bad, and it can change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I completely agree that people can change and grow out of unhealthy coping methods. It's very understandable how people get to that point! I'm sorry you had a rough go initially, but that's awesome that it's better now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago i just wanted to humanize having an unnecessarily bad day. it's not that bad, and it can change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago i just wanted to humanize having an unnecessarily bad day. it's not that bad, and it can change. permalink fedilink source parent