I mean... The "fuck cloud" crowd were right, unless you actually enjoy house appliances that cease functioning without an Internet connection.

the old crowd is still going strong and have been proven largely correct because what they/we were really against was going from a "you own this software" model to a "perpetual licensing" model with price hikes, lock-in, and everything becoming a service.

it's not completely enshittified, there are lots of great cloud-based services. some long-term, some at various stages of the enshittification curve.

same with AI. it doesn't all suck, and it won't all suck. but a lot/most of it does and will absolutely suck and it will enshittify many things.

So can we fast track the "oh no, they where right after all" and just skip all the bullshit?

Cloud turned out to be largely a stupid idea with a few decent applications that should have been shackled down by consumer protection laws from the get go.

Meanwhile, you sound like "nft is the future of art" crowd that sounded like "bitcoins are the future of money" crowd that sounded like "web 3.0 is here and will always be relevant" crowd that sounded like...

Honestly those people are proven right every time there's a data breach or service goes down for no discernable reason.

I'm still anti-cloud

And in which direction are we going?
Back from
everything into the the cloud
to
Everything back on-premise or a hybrid model

Can confirm, both are an extension of Corporatocracy and the abortion of privacy.

We hate cloud here too, what’s your point?

Yes I think if software companies put money into easy to setup home servers that would be better than what's available to the average consumer.

I might be the sort of person to keep a 24u rack in their closet, but you shouldn't have to to reap the benefits.

I mean Jesus, even cloud providers know this. Just look at AWS Outposts.

The difference is that, unlike "AI", cloud hosting actually exists.

(I admit, I liked the cloud crowd better.)