▲ 384 ▼ AOC surges to lead in 2028 primary for first time (www.newsweek.com) submitted 3 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/46769092
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (16 children) No woman has won a presidential race in the United States. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 3 months ago (13 children) The two women who made credible attempts at becoming president also happened to be utterly terrible politicians, but I'm sure that had nothing to do with the outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (12 children) Okay, so question: Why, in two out of the last three election cycles, has the DNC put forward "utterly terrible politicians" as the party leader and candidate for the world's highest office? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (6 children) Because a non-terrible candidate would do popular things they don't want to do? What even is this question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (5 children) So either AOC is a terrible politician or the DNC won't push her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) I mean it's fucking obviously the latter? What's even your point here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) The DNC likely won't push her, they'll push Newsom or Harris (she's already mentioned she's thinking about running again) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children) Because if they can't win with their corpo zombie zionist center-right candidate, they'd rather lose and play feckless controlled "opposition" than do anything to jeopardize their gravy train with a progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Uh huh. Keep going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Going back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) "The DNC" is people voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago List the people who voted for Kamala in the 2024 primary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Granted, not many have made it to the general election as the candidate of a party with a chance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago Both that have lost to Donald Trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 3 months ago (13 children) The two women who made credible attempts at becoming president also happened to be utterly terrible politicians, but I'm sure that had nothing to do with the outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (12 children) Okay, so question: Why, in two out of the last three election cycles, has the DNC put forward "utterly terrible politicians" as the party leader and candidate for the world's highest office? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (6 children) Because a non-terrible candidate would do popular things they don't want to do? What even is this question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (5 children) So either AOC is a terrible politician or the DNC won't push her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) I mean it's fucking obviously the latter? What's even your point here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) The DNC likely won't push her, they'll push Newsom or Harris (she's already mentioned she's thinking about running again) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children) Because if they can't win with their corpo zombie zionist center-right candidate, they'd rather lose and play feckless controlled "opposition" than do anything to jeopardize their gravy train with a progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Uh huh. Keep going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Going back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) "The DNC" is people voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago List the people who voted for Kamala in the 2024 primary. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (12 children) Okay, so question: Why, in two out of the last three election cycles, has the DNC put forward "utterly terrible politicians" as the party leader and candidate for the world's highest office? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (6 children) Because a non-terrible candidate would do popular things they don't want to do? What even is this question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (5 children) So either AOC is a terrible politician or the DNC won't push her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) I mean it's fucking obviously the latter? What's even your point here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) The DNC likely won't push her, they'll push Newsom or Harris (she's already mentioned she's thinking about running again) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children) Because if they can't win with their corpo zombie zionist center-right candidate, they'd rather lose and play feckless controlled "opposition" than do anything to jeopardize their gravy train with a progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Uh huh. Keep going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Going back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) "The DNC" is people voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago List the people who voted for Kamala in the 2024 primary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (6 children) Because a non-terrible candidate would do popular things they don't want to do? What even is this question? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (5 children) So either AOC is a terrible politician or the DNC won't push her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) I mean it's fucking obviously the latter? What's even your point here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) The DNC likely won't push her, they'll push Newsom or Harris (she's already mentioned she's thinking about running again) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (5 children) So either AOC is a terrible politician or the DNC won't push her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) I mean it's fucking obviously the latter? What's even your point here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) The DNC likely won't push her, they'll push Newsom or Harris (she's already mentioned she's thinking about running again) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) I mean it's fucking obviously the latter? What's even your point here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 child) If it's the former, why be excited, if it's the latter, who cares? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago There is such a thing as forcing elites to make concessions. Not that I think Americans can or will do it, but it's a thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) The DNC likely won't push her, they'll push Newsom or Harris (she's already mentioned she's thinking about running again) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago And they'll say AOC shouldn't run because a woman can't win up until the very second Harris announces. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children) Because if they can't win with their corpo zombie zionist center-right candidate, they'd rather lose and play feckless controlled "opposition" than do anything to jeopardize their gravy train with a progressive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Uh huh. Keep going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Going back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Uh huh. Keep going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Going back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) "The DNC" is people voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago List the people who voted for Kamala in the 2024 primary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago List the people who voted for Kamala in the 2024 primary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Granted, not many have made it to the general election as the candidate of a party with a chance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago Both that have lost to Donald Trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago Both that have lost to Donald Trump. permalink fedilink source parent