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Rimu Mass Bans Users
(thelemmy.club)
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
Remind me again why y’all have piefed instances?
I don't know. But it's gotten to the point that I don't trust any piefed instances anymore at all. Rimu pushed a piece of code into Piefed a few days ago specifically to silence criticism against him and to silently delete/block posts on Piefed. He is exerting such an extreme amount of control onto the entire platform itself that I cannot trust the platform itself.
Every piefed instance, as far as I'm concerned at this point, comes with an enormous asterisk.
Uhuh.
I’m sure there was another piece of code specifically designed to silence leftists a few days ago, given it’s the entire purpose of piefed, but it’s not like this is a surprise?
> @stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com said in Rimu Mass Bans Users: > > Rimu pushed a piece of code into Piefed a few days ago specifically to silence criticism against him and to silently delete/block posts on Piefed.
Extremely concerning.
I knew there was hardcoded stuff to block instances, but this goes further... got a link?
Here.
He pushed that into the code of Piefed at the same time that he was getting criticized a few days ago. Added the feature specifically to control the narrative.
Codeberg link?
I think it was largely people reactively hating on the Lemmy devs. People were claiming Lemmy's developers would push opinionated changes to the codebase and ruin Lemmy. Funny and ironic that this problem happened to piefed instead, and @rimu@piefed.social was the one we needed to worry about in the first place.
and where did that bring you
back to me...
Easily modified code base?
Lemmy is open source and doesn’t have ableist function names, but ydy
Quokk.au used to be Lemmy, I tried changing some text on a page once it was near impossible with how obscurificated everything was across multiple files. With PieFed and Python I'm able to easily change large parts and can understand the project so much easier.
Lemmy feels more like an enterprise level app, whereas PieFed feels like something you can run on your home server and hack away at.
On my list of least favorite languages, Python is number 2, right after English.
Hey, let's create a thread about language preference and utilities elsewhere, ’cause I am interested in your perspectives, and blatantly I don't want to OT.
I run Lemmy on a home server no prob. I've been able to hack away at the UI in the past without much issue. Idk. Once you know where things are, its not that hard.
were you offering to help them, or just bragging about how you understood something they didn't?
Which ones? Not coming to PieFed's defense [1], just want to bask in yet another PieFed L, and I'm not personally that tapped in when it comes to the actual code in Lemmy and PieFed.
[1] Don't pay attention to the software my instance is running lol, I just wanted anarchist.nexus in my domain name to make my anarchism completely obvious 😆
I’ll bask in knowing that Mia knew exactly what I meant at least.
Okay now I'm like 90% sure that null account is a rimu alt.
They're both using that rimus not transphobic line as a defense to try and deflect
Edit:
Based on all interactions in the comments below null either really really loves rimu or is rimu
null has been around for I think longer than Rimu.
I think both arrived during the Reddit APIcalypse like me.
as it so happens, I believe @quokka@quokk.au has a fork without those ableist function names
Because we can no longer sit back and allow Tankie infiltration, Tankie indoctrination, Tankie subversion and the international Tankie conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
What are all those fluids for? Are they what you store in the tanks??
My cum is only for spilling into socks!! Rimu can't have any!
Is there a fork? Maybe once this rimu person finishes crashing out something could be made from the sources?
I was told they liked the features and now just may not want to migrate.
Neither really looking like great long term options at this rate
we're actively working towards a fork right now in certain private chats. and by we, I mean the FAF and some allied admins and users. we've been discussing how that would be organized atm.
the intention is to first remove problematic shit Rimu added, then begin adding features we want to break away from his influence at all.
Full support 🫡
I'm biased after looking at the code by just thinking it needs a rewrite more than a down stream fork.
Or I'm thinking too much in terms of rhel os dev
Call it wokiefed 🙏
well I was working on one and called it pievolution, but I'm mostly versed in design and HTML/CSS, not in Python. so I'm gonna table that and instead help out Mia with her fork instead. hers is called pylova.
if we're gonna make a serious push for a fork away from mainline piefed that doesn't depend on manbabies, I would rather somebody with more Python experience be in charge.
Just as a thought as to why I don't trust piefed as software and would probably not use a server running it, I believe piefed is rather poorly thought out based on this thread which I dont have the expertise to know how true it is, but also the now infamous "this"-checking function which should be a regex gives me real doubt as to the expertise in putting this kind of software together. Checking if a string is equal to "this", "this." or "this!" by declaring them a set and seeing if said string is in that set is such a backwards way of doing. And that's just right there on the surface, god knows what lurks beneath?
Lemmy 1.0 is getting plugins which can be programmed in python as well, wouldn't that be a better idea long term? Rather than forking from a dev who is actively hostile to you and wants his software to be so as well? Also I think that if more instances then switch away from piefed to your version that his fragile ego wouldn't be able to take it and he'd ragequit the whole project leaving you all to maintain it.
For people already running PieFed instances, starting from scratch today isn’t realistic compared to a hard fork of their current codebase.
It’s Python. It’s not that hard to find out.
Yes, a hard fork would entail maintaining a codebase ever-more divergent from PieFed over time. Anyone serious about forking should consider how much work it would be embark on an independent path.
Alternatively, perhaps people will build a PieFed to Lemmy converter, because switching platforms while keeping the existing users, communities, and conversations intact is hard.
evidently
Yeah I saw that. I’d venture to guess @yogthos@lemmy.ml fed the code to an LLM and told it to find vulnerabilities.
Yup, that's exactly how I zeroed in on these. I got curious and used an LLM to do an audit then looked closer at the stuff it flagged, and oh boy it's bad.
it's a more feature rich software, with actual blocking, to start with. the problematic things Rimu adds can be removed easily enough.