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[-] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

im autistic myself and know about the ableism problem on this site, thank you very much. before accusing others of patronizing and going on to point out the speck in your neighbour's eye, consider asking yourself if you failed to notice the log in your own eye?

if my comment came across as offensive or condescending, that was not my intention, and i apologize. my intention was to point out that your statement is doing more harm than good! by linking these issues to things that have little or nothing to do with them, you inadvertently end up downplaying or even legitimizing them. nothing good has ever been achieved this way.

Thanks for the apology, do i get another one for you immediately pivoting back to telling me that i am wrong and need to shut up about misogyny?

[-] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

apparently i've worded things poorly, since i never said that you need to shut up about misogyny!

all i tried to say was that your statement seems to mischaracterize many of the people having issues with anime as an art form, and to point out that equating misogyny and other issues with ultimately relatively unimportant differences of opinion risks trivializing them and thus tends to play into the hands of bigots.

nobody should ever shut up about misogyny, but accusing people who dont engage in it is not productive.

[-] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, you have not worded that poorly, your claim in itself is the problem. I will still take the time to explain myself, not only for your sake but also that of others reading the exchange here, but this is getting really draining.

You admitted in your first post that criticizing the entirity of all anime is obviously silly. Given the range of the medium, such a critique will always be a mere knee-jerk reaction that says more about the critic than the medium. In many cases, it is an expression of western chauvinism and anti Asian racism, but that would not be my call to make, so i'm leaving that aside. What i can say is that hexbear, due to its widespread misogyny problem, frequently has an issue with all things perceived as effeminate, saccharine, or frivolous (see also: the reflex to immediately critique not "breadtube's" widespread liberalism but "lighting and costume changes", read: the aesthetic being too campy and too influenced by drag / ballroom culture). Anime with its exaggerated cuteness and frilly hyperfemininity fits that description, its many undeniable examples of a problematic portrayal of women and queerness notwithstanding.

So when i see a bunch of bearded brocialists proudly claim that the site is hentai free, in a day and age where reactionaries are openly crusading against NSFW art, where i am constantly seeing the direct pressure that puts on queer artists in my community, i am being uncharitable and will not give these men the benefit of the doubt that they are doing this for the benefit of women. I will instead assume that this is an aesthetic choice that just so happens to align with an aesthetic that caters to the gender conforming cishet male. Just look at who brings this up in this comment chain, there was not a single she / her pronoun to be seen when our exchange started, don't you wonder why that is? This isn't these guys' call to make, just as it isn't you who should decide who's in the right here. That's another issue with the kind of misogyny particular to leftist circles, that leftist men are often very eager to take up claims they perceive to be feminist and then browbeat women who challenge their claims. They are appropriating feminism and push women out of advocating for ourselves. I have seen that over and over again on here (although mostly coming from lemmygrad users) in regards to sex work, but the same pattern is at play here in this very discussion: You think you can explain to me what counts as misogyny when i am subject to it every day. Please stop that and take my concerns seriously instead of making absolutely outrageous statements like "you are trivializing misogyny and play into the hands of the biggots". You are not the gatekeeper for when misogyny is not-trivial enough to warrant concern.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Hi, first and foremost I want to say I completely get where you're coming from and I agree with you - but I think it is a bit wrong to say "Just look at who brings this up in this comment chain, there was not a single she / her pronoun to be seen when our exchange started, don't you wonder why that is?" and "You think you can mansplain misogyny to me." to the user you've been back & forth with who clearly has 'Any' pronouns and also extended an apology.

Can you reword the last bit of your comment so it doesn't read like you're telling the person you're replying to that you think they're mansplaining something to you? I only ask because it has been reported as misgendering and I don't want to just nuke the comment because you do raise valid points (even if I don't personally think ourtimewillcome has ever been in disagreement with you) kissinger-beg-mercy

Also, I do think you're probably referring to my comment (among others, such as the removed one you initially replied to in this thread) in this same post. It was just a joking 'i don't like it because anime' (I genuinely would've made the same comment if it was Goku or some 'ideal male anime guy') though I get how it could've been taken as serious negativity since I don't regularly post in c/anime about how josei/shojo is often better than your average shounen (Chihayafuru my beloved....Journal of Witch may be the best anime of 2026 so far) and am a man. So let me extend an apology as well if it came off misogynistic or that I have an issue with effeminate/hyper-feminine/cute things!

I have edited the mansplaining part and cut the last sentence to not misgender anybody. I suppose this is sufficient, given that the other parts are speaking in general and make no claims about that specific user, but i can edit again if there is a part that assumes somebody's gender incorrectly.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

All good doggirl-happy Thank you comrade!!

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