▲ 281 ▼ TIL people who are blind from birth never develop schizophrenia (theconversation.com) submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/til@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (5 children) Maybe the blind schizophrenics just don't ever know. If they are hearing hallucinations, how would they know they aren't real? It's not like they can see that there's nobody saying these things. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 76 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Schizophrenia produces many symptoms other than hallucinations and causes profound cognitive and social dysfunction. Poverty of thought, delusions, and disordered thinking and speech among others. There would be signs others could see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 26 points 3 months ago (2 children) The sighted schizophrenics don't know their hallucinations aren't real. It's always an external diagnosis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noname_no_worries@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) Not for everyone, I know my hallucinations aren't real, and sought out help myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I'm happy that you sought help, and I hope you're doing well permalink fedilink source parent [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago Right, I should have known better than to use "always" there. "Often" would have been safer. The point was that the number of senses you have don't matter much, as the brain is plenty capable of building a full hallucinated experience with whatever senses you're used to using. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Oh, I know. I've spent years trying to explain to my brother that people aren't actually standing outside his window yelling insults at him. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children) dude they're blind, not stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago schizophrenics often can't tell easily by themselves that they are schizophrenics, if a blind person comments about hearing things others might simply write it off as their (the blind one's) acute and great sense of hearing that the blind developed through necessity that they (others non blind) don't have and thus can't hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (3 children) That implies that schizophrenic people ARE stupid for believing the things that they experience. Which is much more offensive and disrespectful than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) no, you said being blind would specifically prevent them from realizing their symptoms in contrast to seeing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago Not "in contrast to", but as an additional challenge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago how does what that person said imply that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwulgg@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago No it doesn’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago If you know you're alone at home and then hear voices, that might be one way. There are ways to distinguish the presence of people beyond sight. Blindness is much more than total blindness, which only describes a minority of blind people. There are different definitions, but the World Health Organization puts the definition as less than 3/60 or a visual field of less than 10 degrees in the better-seeing eye. That basically means that if you need to be more than 20 times closer to an object to be able to see the same level of detail, or you have almost no peripheral vision, you qualify. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, asking someone else who is around would be a good way, for one thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) How often do you check with others to confirm that something you just experienced was real? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] smh@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago "Do you hear that or is it just my tinnitus?" is a fairly common question in my household. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Don't be a moron. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 76 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Schizophrenia produces many symptoms other than hallucinations and causes profound cognitive and social dysfunction. Poverty of thought, delusions, and disordered thinking and speech among others. There would be signs others could see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 26 points 3 months ago (2 children) The sighted schizophrenics don't know their hallucinations aren't real. It's always an external diagnosis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] noname_no_worries@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) Not for everyone, I know my hallucinations aren't real, and sought out help myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I'm happy that you sought help, and I hope you're doing well permalink fedilink source parent [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago Right, I should have known better than to use "always" there. "Often" would have been safer. The point was that the number of senses you have don't matter much, as the brain is plenty capable of building a full hallucinated experience with whatever senses you're used to using. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Oh, I know. I've spent years trying to explain to my brother that people aren't actually standing outside his window yelling insults at him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noname_no_worries@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) Not for everyone, I know my hallucinations aren't real, and sought out help myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I'm happy that you sought help, and I hope you're doing well permalink fedilink source parent [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago Right, I should have known better than to use "always" there. "Often" would have been safer. The point was that the number of senses you have don't matter much, as the brain is plenty capable of building a full hallucinated experience with whatever senses you're used to using. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I'm happy that you sought help, and I hope you're doing well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago Right, I should have known better than to use "always" there. "Often" would have been safer. The point was that the number of senses you have don't matter much, as the brain is plenty capable of building a full hallucinated experience with whatever senses you're used to using. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Oh, I know. I've spent years trying to explain to my brother that people aren't actually standing outside his window yelling insults at him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children) dude they're blind, not stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago schizophrenics often can't tell easily by themselves that they are schizophrenics, if a blind person comments about hearing things others might simply write it off as their (the blind one's) acute and great sense of hearing that the blind developed through necessity that they (others non blind) don't have and thus can't hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (3 children) That implies that schizophrenic people ARE stupid for believing the things that they experience. Which is much more offensive and disrespectful than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) no, you said being blind would specifically prevent them from realizing their symptoms in contrast to seeing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago Not "in contrast to", but as an additional challenge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago how does what that person said imply that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwulgg@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago No it doesn’t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago schizophrenics often can't tell easily by themselves that they are schizophrenics, if a blind person comments about hearing things others might simply write it off as their (the blind one's) acute and great sense of hearing that the blind developed through necessity that they (others non blind) don't have and thus can't hear permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (3 children) That implies that schizophrenic people ARE stupid for believing the things that they experience. Which is much more offensive and disrespectful than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) no, you said being blind would specifically prevent them from realizing their symptoms in contrast to seeing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago Not "in contrast to", but as an additional challenge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago how does what that person said imply that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwulgg@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago No it doesn’t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) no, you said being blind would specifically prevent them from realizing their symptoms in contrast to seeing people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago Not "in contrast to", but as an additional challenge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago Not "in contrast to", but as an additional challenge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago how does what that person said imply that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago If you know you're alone at home and then hear voices, that might be one way. There are ways to distinguish the presence of people beyond sight. Blindness is much more than total blindness, which only describes a minority of blind people. There are different definitions, but the World Health Organization puts the definition as less than 3/60 or a visual field of less than 10 degrees in the better-seeing eye. That basically means that if you need to be more than 20 times closer to an object to be able to see the same level of detail, or you have almost no peripheral vision, you qualify. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, asking someone else who is around would be a good way, for one thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) How often do you check with others to confirm that something you just experienced was real? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] smh@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago "Do you hear that or is it just my tinnitus?" is a fairly common question in my household. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Don't be a moron. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) How often do you check with others to confirm that something you just experienced was real? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] smh@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago "Do you hear that or is it just my tinnitus?" is a fairly common question in my household. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Don't be a moron. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smh@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago "Do you hear that or is it just my tinnitus?" is a fairly common question in my household. permalink fedilink source parent