According to Rimu, the main developer of PieFed, all PieFed instances come with a 3000-long block list of resources that cannot be linked to. These include all sorts of right-wing outlets. There is no easy opt-out, forcing existing instances to follow the blocklist.

The flagship PieFed instance also rolled out a feature marking various other sorts of outlets - among them, resources considered AI slop and Marxist outlets. These are specific to piefed.social.

Related discussion: https://piefed.social/comment/11254679

Why YSK: Many users have hard time choosing between Lemmy, PieFed, and Kbin/Mbin. Users that prefer a more curated and politically uniform experience might prefer PieFed over the alternatives. Users that are right-wing, Marxist, or generally concerned about global censorship of the Fedi-/Threadiverse, might opt for other options instead.

Note: The post is only meant to inform users of the potentially important differences between Threadiverse platforms. Any ideologically charged discussions are better left in the respective topic.

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[–] 23 points 5 months ago (41 children)

goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit

Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit? Like that blocklist isn't horrible - now - but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with? Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from.

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  • [–] 47 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This is why open source is so important. If the dev goes crazy and blocks all sorts of stuff the community can fork the code and remove the block list, while still remaining interoperable with Lemmy, other Piefeds, Mbin.

    That's way different to say Facebook where they fight to the death to stop you using an app that isn't their official one.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with?

    Then you move to another instance.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    This says its all piefed instances

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Any piefed instance can empty the list of right-wing sites, either as a whole or on a case-by-case basis. Source: https://piefed.social/comment/11254679

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  • [+] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (24 children)
  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (23 children)

    If you can't opt out as an instance its a bit more than "default settings" imo

    And my whole issue is not wanting too wide a net being labeled under "trash sites" I hate Fox News and Infowars but I also hate them being hidden from me with no way to get around that besides switching from piefed to a different service. Who is to say what the next trash site will be? Spam is one thing but I don't need a net nanny.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (22 children)
  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    "Changing the setting" would involve forking the codebase, as it's hardcoded iirc

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Just make a different account on a different instance, nothing is stopping you.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    What? You mean lemmy? I have one. If you mean a different piefed instance, that's what I was saying, you'd need to fork the pyfedi repo to remove the list, it's on every instrnce of piefed

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Make your own and opt out or use lemmy since you're complaining specifically about the features that differentiate piefed. Like this is a seriously dumb complaint. Like why would you want active disinformation sources? What benefit does that provide to discourse? Or do you just want disinformation to be disseminated? It's not a matter of fuckin opinion, these sites propagate actual fake news and that's their primary purpose. Fox news literally argued in court they're purely entertainment, like the onion.

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  • [+] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (9 children)

    Literally yesterday I tried hosting a piefed instance, with no intervention, it applied these exact lists, and there was no option to change it which is why I switched back to self hosted lemmy

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  • [+] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I'm not going to look through the code for proof for an online argument, but the reason I believe that is because there is/was code that searched for anonymous and No. in any uploaded image, and failed with a fake error message when you try to upload it

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  • [+] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)
  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I literally installed it the day before yesterday, the first page of logs was applied x blocklist, applied x blocklist... Unless the pyfedi repo is unofficial?

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  • [+] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Okay? Just because it's possible does not mean the avg instance will bother, much less avg person

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    Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit?

    People want to live in Echo Chambers.

    Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from.

    Nah, most of 'em just want to be the ones doing the censoring.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with?

    Then go to a different site...? What's the actual problem here?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Switching sites is annoying? I'm sure you are aware of that though...

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Only mildly. At least on Lemmy, I haven't used piefed. The import/export went really well when lemm.ee shut down. And luckily there was an instance with a similar stance (lemmy.zip) to letting you decide what you want blocked.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    piefed already blocks by default lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad. lol ... it's just a lib echo chamber. I stand corrected.

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