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[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would generally agree, that socialization plays the major role. As far as premeditated conscious aggression goes.

In 'The female of the species is deadlier than the male"

Kipling's argument was that a lot of animal species fight duels, but these duels are more or less ritualistic, meant to intimidate and force the other one to back away rather than to cause harm. So there is presumably a phisiological mechanism that prevents males from engaging in actual figthing, and then from going in for the kill in these types of situations.

While females only fight when they are forced too, for prey, self defence, or when defending their young. So there is no reason not to go for the kill.

In a human context, this would probably make a lady commander who was socialized for it, more decisive all things equal.

On the other hand, testosterone meses with stress responses, so the type of stochastic violence when someone suddenly snaps seems more likely to be male regardless of socialization.

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These are interesting thoughts, but we should be super-pooper careful when trying to apply random evopsych speculation to real world modern humans. 'testosterone messes with stress therefore sudden stochastic violence seems more likely to be male' is a wild claim based our very poor understanding of a very complex thing.

It's that kind of reasoning that backed a millenia of consensus that women are scientifically proven to be stupider, then it turned out it was all socialisation.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

Thanks, of course socialization is the most important factor.

while I admit I find Kipling's arguments plausible, and I do at some level believe that, at the end of the day he is a victorian poet, and not a rigorous scientist. The rhymes play a part at making such an argument more convincing.

I apologize for the comments of testosterone. You are of course right that it is more complex than that. And now that I think of it, it was disrespectful of me to assume other people's experience. It occurs to me that we have several people here who have been both a man and a woman, now I am curious as to wether they feel a difference in their reactions, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to ask.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Interesting theories. I kinda like the theory that males have a history of performance aggression, it's certainly part of the whole territory control and mating priority routine in apes that the females don't have so much.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago
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