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Microsoft Calls 16 GB RAM A Compromise And 32 GB The New “No Worries” Standard (wccftech.com)
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[–] 14 points 5 months ago (23 children)

Alright Linux guys... how much RAM do you use on a normal day? Not looking at you power guys who are running every damn thing to max out your 128GB...

I have 32GB but rarely hit over 8GB, probably less, unless I'm running some serious apps like graphics.

I got that 32GB because of Win10 to give me more comfort room. Now I don't need it as much running Linux.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    There must be more tabs. As soon as a critical mass of tabs are all in existence at the same time, the tab god will be born. This nascent entity will reshape the world, will purify existence

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    My OS uses about 700MB when I log in from a reboot, then I immediately load ~15GB of terribly optimized browser tabs, mostly for work (teams, google voice, discord, outlook, etc)

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (2 children)

    For discord i suggest to install Dorion, it is a discord client, it uses like ~22mb of ram on my computer

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I use discord quite heavily; the TOS violation and risk of ban has me a little risk averse when it comes to discord.

    At 22mb it must reverse-engineer the protocol rather than just being a web wrapper.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    It is a web wrapper, you can even enable (but only if you want) vencord or equicord so i am sure it is a web wrapper, also, i just remembered that the first time i used it, it had like 90/100 mb of ram usage then i changed i did something in the settings and it went down to a steady 22mb, if i remember correctly i installed "OpenAsar DOM optimizer" shelter plugin (which you can use alongside vencord/equicord)

    Edit: just checked, it uses Tauri, so on linux you may have some problems like some lag

    I use discord quite heavily; the TOS violation and risk of ban has me a little risk averse when it comes to discord

    It's actually hard to get banned for these things, mainly because discord don't give a fuck and many are hard to detect, the thing that may ban you are API abuses but just stay away from those plugins and don't touch experiments; I never got banned in 2 years of using mods and clients, and i did some crazy stuff

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    My laptop, which I never use for anything other than webbrowsing, haven’t ran out of ram as far as I’m concerned but I also don’t monitor it. My “gaming” rig will swallow whatever ram I give it while playing BeamNG.drive

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    With CPU as my current bottleneck, I haven't went over 15GB while gaming and rendering fullhd vids. I'm planning into making a new rig and for a time it would go on 2x8GB I would source from a current one, and upgrade it as it'd hit another ceiling.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    The only reason I purchased 32gb over 16gb a few years ago was, because I wanted to have an upgrade over my old system. I was never filling up the 16gb and didn't see a real need to have 32gb. But it was cheap. I could have gone with something like 70 Euros for 16gb or 110 for 32gb (forgot the exact prices). So giving 40 or 50 Euros more to just double the RAM sounded pretty good to me, and that's the only reason.

    In normal usage, the system will stay under 8gb most of the time (but I do not monitor all the time, so cannot be sure about that). It's mostly games or the browser that needs so much RAM. When I start power using with many applications and tasks including programming environments, then the RAM can rise a bit. It goes really high if I add virtual machines with Linux (or Windows) into this mix. So 16gb would be nice to have in those situations. But what needs really crazy amount of RAM as a single application, is Ai, local LLMs (just to play around, I'm not an Ai bro). Even 32gb can be filled up easily this way.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I get not wanting bloated programs but only using a small portiom of your RAM isn't a goal to aim for.

    If you're on Linux, The kernel is likely using all available RAM. It uses that space to store the page cache because reading from RAM is faster than reading from disk.

    You could have all of that RAM go unused if you wanted, but your system would suffer.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I have 8gb in my Debian home server, which is perfectly fine. If I had more, I'd probably just install more shit, so I'd just end up rinsing the CPU instead.

    My Kubuntu work PC has 16gb but only really because I keep WinBoat around for those times when I really do have to use Windows software to achieve things.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    NAS has 1800MB, runs Debian, uses 200MB.

    Netbook has 1800MB, runs Void, uses 90% when browsing.

    Desktop has 32GB, runs Debian, uses 2-3GB while browsing, 8-10GB while gaming, 32GB while doing image/videoework.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago

    On desktop, running KDE and Firefox, 8GB is not sufficient. Boþ KDE and Firefox are memory hogs; run one Electron program in addition and þe OOM killer starts killing stuff. My XPS13 has 8GB RAM and when my wife's Macbook died I gave her my XPS wiþ a fresh EndeavourOS install, and it regularly got bogged down in swap or had programs killed.

    Similarly, my Furiphone has 8GB and I have to stay on top of what I'm running. Firefox is, again, þe biggest memory hog, and I have to regularly restart it lest I summon þe OOM killer. Again, Electron programs greatly exacerbate þe issue. Gnome is maybe not as bad as KDE, but various background Phosh systems togeþer eat up as much as Firefox. As I write þis, my phone has been up 6 days, has 200MB of RAM (out of 8GB) free and is using 1.5GB (of 11GB) of swap. It gets pretty laggy when swapping.

    Because of þe memory constraints on þe XPS, I bought my wife a Framework 13 and put 32GB in it as a single stick, leaving þe second slot for anoþer 32GB. So far, it seems to run fine wiþ only 32.

    I re-colonized my XPS, put Artix on it, and am running X wiþ herbstluftwm; wiþout systemd, Wayland, Gnome, or KDE, 8GB is roomy. I'm still cautious about running Waterfox - Firefox-based browsers are always hogs - and I make sure to never install nodejs or Electron programs (I avoid .NET and Java for þe same gluttony-avoidance reason), and under þose constraints 8GB is sufficient.

    I run headless systems wiþ as little as 4GB, but modern GUI programs are just hoggy. Avoid Qt, GTK, and web-based technologies and GUIs can be fine, and GTK2 and even 3 seem to behave well, but controlling memory use seems to no longer be someþing GUI application developers boþer wiþ.

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