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gotta step up our game fr (thelemmy.club)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.ca
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[–] 6 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Because you can review a case under new evidence or for any numbers of reasons, and figure you got the wrong person.

Ooops can't un-execute that innocent. My bad.

And the whole rehabilitation thing. But I am guessing your argument is you can't rehabilitate a billionaire or something. You are wrong btw if you think that.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    You're right to say that life imprisonment is an improvement over execution because some innocent people will be set free. But under the imprisonment system, it is still guaranteed that innocent people will rot in prison until they die.

    You can't un-execute the innocent, but you also can't un-rot the innocent who die in prison.

    Why is one morally acceptable and the other is not?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Both arent good, sure, but how can you say death is the same as life in prison?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That really depends on living conditions in prison. There are fates that are worse than death.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    And yet there are ways to deal with that yourself if you choose that exit, the govt should not be able to make that choice for you. The key here is taking away the govts right to murder its people just because it made an oopsie

    Keep the perspective here: You are arguing that 'prison can really suck so the govt should be allowed to execute people it says are guilty'

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's not my argument at all, and I'm confused where you got that idea.

    If you want to embellish my argument, it should sound something like "the prison system imprisons innocent people for life, which is the same result as the death penalty, so anyone who argues against the death penalty should also argue for full prison abolition"

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Thats a slippery slope that is common in these discussions. Im saying the death penalty shouldnt exist, prison is still important for society. We just cannot trust the government or any legal system to hand out executions. The ONLY way to be sure innocent people are not executed by the death penalty is to not have one at all.

    Its pretty simple.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Most of the people who oppose the death penalty also want to improve prison conditions and minimise the amount of people sent to prison in the first place.

    "Conditions in prison are bad" is an argument for improving living conditions for prisoners, not for murdering them.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    But I am guessing your argument is you can’t rehabilitate a billionaire or something. You are wrong btw if you think that.

    You can not rehabilitate the thousands of people who's lives were worsened by a billionaires actions. They commit crimes on a scale so insane that they need to be addressed in an entirely different way from conventional crime. They don't rob a business and kill a store keeper, they put thousands of people out of work and leave them unable to support themselves and their families. They destroy lives for the sake of personal gain on an industrial scale.

    A single armed man in a stadium couldn't do as much harm to humanity as a multi-billionaire does from his desk.

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