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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That really depends on living conditions in prison. There are fates that are worse than death.

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[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

And yet there are ways to deal with that yourself if you choose that exit, the govt should not be able to make that choice for you. The key here is taking away the govts right to murder its people just because it made an oopsie

Keep the perspective here: You are arguing that 'prison can really suck so the govt should be allowed to execute people it says are guilty'

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

That's not my argument at all, and I'm confused where you got that idea.

If you want to embellish my argument, it should sound something like "the prison system imprisons innocent people for life, which is the same result as the death penalty, so anyone who argues against the death penalty should also argue for full prison abolition"

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[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Thats a slippery slope that is common in these discussions. Im saying the death penalty shouldnt exist, prison is still important for society. We just cannot trust the government or any legal system to hand out executions. The ONLY way to be sure innocent people are not executed by the death penalty is to not have one at all.

Its pretty simple.

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[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

Most of the people who oppose the death penalty also want to improve prison conditions and minimise the amount of people sent to prison in the first place.

"Conditions in prison are bad" is an argument for improving living conditions for prisoners, not for murdering them.

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