▲ 841 ▼ Modder releases PS5-Linux that turns the console into a fully functional Linux gaming PC (www.notebookcheck.net) submitted 5 months ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 105 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works -16 points 5 months ago (20 children) Ah yes games meant to play 720 looks great on a 4k tv… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 28 points 5 months ago* (4 children) Me, still playing 480p Wii games on my modded Wii with an old ass 1080p TV, having a blast permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RedMari@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago This is the way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago I personally think there's a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift. Somewhat related to that, I'd also say there's merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for 'better' is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market's desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics. When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience. But that's just my 2 cents. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ollie@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago preach brother, still playing wii and wii u games, it brings me joy permalink fedilink source parent [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (7 children) And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (5 children) Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true. The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children) Why are you being booed? You make a point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter. A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC permalink fedilink source parent [–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago It's not better, it's just different permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Well yeah, I should note that my TV isn’t 4k and the games I play aren’t typically resource heavy. I’m talking about the overall user experience of being able to sleep/suspend quickly, go offline easily, the sense of ownership and control over the OS, and seamless handoff between the deck and my more serious gaming PC in my upstairs office. There’s a lot more to the UX than resolution and/or frame rate. I typically don’t even care as long as it’s 720p or better. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) 1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 28 points 5 months ago* (4 children) Me, still playing 480p Wii games on my modded Wii with an old ass 1080p TV, having a blast permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RedMari@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago This is the way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago I personally think there's a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift. Somewhat related to that, I'd also say there's merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for 'better' is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market's desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics. When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience. But that's just my 2 cents. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ollie@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago preach brother, still playing wii and wii u games, it brings me joy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure, but that’s not better than playing games in 4k now is it? Yes it’s fun, but it’s objectively not “better”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago I personally think there's a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift. Somewhat related to that, I'd also say there's merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for 'better' is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market's desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics. When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience. But that's just my 2 cents. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago I personally think there's a law of diminishing returns with things like graphics and resolution, and as technology advances, what used to be good or even amazing becomes our baseline as expectations shift. Somewhat related to that, I'd also say there's merit in sometimes analyzing if our chase for 'better' is truly bringing us enough value to warrant the downsides it brings. As an example, the market's desire for the new and novel, for better graphics, for higher resolutions, feeds into a consumer culture that brings with it a tremendous amount of greenhouse emissions to produce and ship all those new consoles and higher resolution monitors/TVs, environmental destruction to mine the raw materials for them, exploitation of third world workers to gather those materials and assemble them into those products, products which as the OP points out, are increasingly user hostile and enshittified alongside those better graphics. When looked at objectively, a Wii is a comparatively low resolution, but it is also widely available used (so while it did initially contribute to the downsides I mentioned above when new, as a used object on a second-hand market, it does not), and despite that lack of resolution, still brings with it the capability of giving us great fun, which is ultimately the reason we want to experience them, is it not? And due to its age, it has no enshittification whatsoever, the user completely owns the experience. But that's just my 2 cents. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ollie@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago preach brother, still playing wii and wii u games, it brings me joy permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (7 children) And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (5 children) Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true. The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (7 children) And wouldn’t a ps5 be better though? Of course you can have fun, but it’s an objectively worse machine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (5 children) Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true. The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (5 children) Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true. The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (5 children) Compared to a steam deck? That’s not even close to being true. The original comment compared it to a ps5, not a wii, not a ps4. Keep on topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children) Ah, yes let’s just ignore the entire topic and main point of the discussion and bloviate about unrelated and irrelevant stuff… Do you just randomly shout stuff like this often? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child) Do you not know what the word “objectively” means….? If you’re using “I think” that’s an opinion, the opposite of objective. Lol, lmfao even. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children) Why are you being booed? You make a point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter. A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC permalink fedilink source parent [–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago It's not better, it's just different permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) Because people don’t want to comprehend that a 720p machine won’t ever be better than something that can do 4k. They just want to be bitter. A Wii isn’t better than a ps5 that’s just asinine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC permalink fedilink source parent [–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago It's not better, it's just different permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Bad comparison. A wii and a PS5 run very different software, unlike a Steamdeck and a PC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago It's not better, it's just different permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Well yeah, I should note that my TV isn’t 4k and the games I play aren’t typically resource heavy. I’m talking about the overall user experience of being able to sleep/suspend quickly, go offline easily, the sense of ownership and control over the OS, and seamless handoff between the deck and my more serious gaming PC in my upstairs office. There’s a lot more to the UX than resolution and/or frame rate. I typically don’t even care as long as it’s 720p or better. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) 1 permalink fedilink source parent