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[+] Dragon@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

What do you mean by this?

I'm still learning about it, but it seems to be based, similar to the USSR and China, in trust that the government will take into consideration the opinion of the masses, as opposed to a direct lever of control.

Expats like Yeonmi Park?

I have seen her speak, and she is obviously pulling stories out of her ass. But she is far from the only person with stories of oppression.

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

But she is far from the only person with stories of oppression.

Do you think she's an anomaly? If you think there is veracity to any of these "Kim Jong Un executed my uncle 400 times with an anti aircraft gun" stories, then quit vagueposting and pull one up so we can examine it as evidence. So far everything you've responded with is vapor, just a parade of Maybe and I Don't Know and Some People Are Saying. If you have evidence, pull it out, because right now you're operating on the level of "I've heard that many people are talking about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."

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[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not all discourse has to be so hostile my guy. It's ok to have questions, hesitations, and confidence levels in-between 0 and 100. It's not hard to find testimonies. As I've said I genuinely don't know how to determine which, if any, are unbiased.

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

The ROK giving money for the testimonies and other financial incentives make literally all testimonies sus. The claims being so extraordinary also means we need extraordinary evidence to believe them, the burden of proof isn't on the DPRK, since you can't realistically prove a negative.

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[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml [S] 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

The claims being so extraordinary also means we need extraordinary evidence to believe them

There's nothing extraordinary about a state oppressing it's people. The existence of a state that doesn't oppress it's people should require extraordinary evidence to believe.

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

You don't think the haircut stories or the claims of mass enslavement are extraordinary? Do you think everyone would believe these claims of any other country, like Canada or Sweden, without stronger evidence?

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[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml [S] -1 points 4 months ago*

I never once worried about the ability of North Koreans to have a western haircut. That said, it's not that outlandish of an idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_and_haircut_laws_by_country

As to mass enslavement, no one is denying that they have universal conscription.

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[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

there's no such thing as unbiased. everyone has a position or interests. work out what the bias is and stop chasing an imaginary view from nowhere