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[–] Kururin@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 years ago* (10 children) Unless the dems take back court we would be all living through a nightmare. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago* (9 children) Maybe Hilldawg could have campaigned in Wisconsin or taken seriously that even if she won the popular vote, that the Electoral College actually mattered. Reminder, she did win the popular vote. The majority did vote for her. Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don't intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don't come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The only winning move is to not play flip the table and play a different game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I just posted this thought before scrolling to see yours. Absolutely their strategy. They don't actually give a fuck about us or the promises we expect them to keep. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago The dem politician's tactic. Pretend like you give a fuck (pretending bc they dont actually do the things to solve the issue), and then hold your constituency hostage during elections. Then continue to pretend like you give a fuck. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baronvonj@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business. I don't disagree that Democrats should have done this, but I doubt any Senate during his presidency would have passed it. The Democratic super majority lasted only a few months and he used that to pass the ACA. I don't think it would have passed if it had codified Roe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Right, he spent his political capital on.... *checks notes.... Romneycare. While it has helped out many who are destitute, it has still resulted in many, many people struggling with their health insurance, paying monthly bills that are so high and deductibles so high that they literally can't afford to use their healthcare. He also promised a public option but I guess forgot about that too, when push came to shove. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) I fail to see why you're turning this around on her. She simply stated a fact that became reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (2 children) This happens every election cycle. We do our job by electing them. They are privy to what will happen and fail to act when they have the power to do so. Who else do we blame? The universe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Hillary were president instead of Trump we wouldn't see this stacked court. That has nothing to do with Obama's promise or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago It has everything to do with Obama's promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit. Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can't afford to actually use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago* (9 children) Maybe Hilldawg could have campaigned in Wisconsin or taken seriously that even if she won the popular vote, that the Electoral College actually mattered. Reminder, she did win the popular vote. The majority did vote for her. Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don't intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don't come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The only winning move is to not play flip the table and play a different game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I just posted this thought before scrolling to see yours. Absolutely their strategy. They don't actually give a fuck about us or the promises we expect them to keep. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago The dem politician's tactic. Pretend like you give a fuck (pretending bc they dont actually do the things to solve the issue), and then hold your constituency hostage during elections. Then continue to pretend like you give a fuck. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baronvonj@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business. I don't disagree that Democrats should have done this, but I doubt any Senate during his presidency would have passed it. The Democratic super majority lasted only a few months and he used that to pass the ACA. I don't think it would have passed if it had codified Roe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Right, he spent his political capital on.... *checks notes.... Romneycare. While it has helped out many who are destitute, it has still resulted in many, many people struggling with their health insurance, paying monthly bills that are so high and deductibles so high that they literally can't afford to use their healthcare. He also promised a public option but I guess forgot about that too, when push came to shove. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) I fail to see why you're turning this around on her. She simply stated a fact that became reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (2 children) This happens every election cycle. We do our job by electing them. They are privy to what will happen and fail to act when they have the power to do so. Who else do we blame? The universe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Hillary were president instead of Trump we wouldn't see this stacked court. That has nothing to do with Obama's promise or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago It has everything to do with Obama's promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit. Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can't afford to actually use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don't intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don't come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The only winning move is to not play flip the table and play a different game. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I just posted this thought before scrolling to see yours. Absolutely their strategy. They don't actually give a fuck about us or the promises we expect them to keep. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I just posted this thought before scrolling to see yours. Absolutely their strategy. They don't actually give a fuck about us or the promises we expect them to keep. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ado@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago The dem politician's tactic. Pretend like you give a fuck (pretending bc they dont actually do the things to solve the issue), and then hold your constituency hostage during elections. Then continue to pretend like you give a fuck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business. I don't disagree that Democrats should have done this, but I doubt any Senate during his presidency would have passed it. The Democratic super majority lasted only a few months and he used that to pass the ACA. I don't think it would have passed if it had codified Roe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Right, he spent his political capital on.... *checks notes.... Romneycare. While it has helped out many who are destitute, it has still resulted in many, many people struggling with their health insurance, paying monthly bills that are so high and deductibles so high that they literally can't afford to use their healthcare. He also promised a public option but I guess forgot about that too, when push came to shove. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Right, he spent his political capital on.... *checks notes.... Romneycare. While it has helped out many who are destitute, it has still resulted in many, many people struggling with their health insurance, paying monthly bills that are so high and deductibles so high that they literally can't afford to use their healthcare. He also promised a public option but I guess forgot about that too, when push came to shove. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) I fail to see why you're turning this around on her. She simply stated a fact that became reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Ado@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (2 children) This happens every election cycle. We do our job by electing them. They are privy to what will happen and fail to act when they have the power to do so. Who else do we blame? The universe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Hillary were president instead of Trump we wouldn't see this stacked court. That has nothing to do with Obama's promise or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago It has everything to do with Obama's promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit. Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can't afford to actually use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ado@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (2 children) This happens every election cycle. We do our job by electing them. They are privy to what will happen and fail to act when they have the power to do so. Who else do we blame? The universe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Hillary were president instead of Trump we wouldn't see this stacked court. That has nothing to do with Obama's promise or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago It has everything to do with Obama's promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit. Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can't afford to actually use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) If Hillary were president instead of Trump we wouldn't see this stacked court. That has nothing to do with Obama's promise or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago It has everything to do with Obama's promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit. Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can't afford to actually use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago It has everything to do with Obama's promise. By not following through on his promise to legislate it into law, the opportunity reverse the previous court decision was always a thing that could happen. Acting like them not taking the opportunity when they had it means its the fault of the voting public is pure bullshit. Instead, Obama used his political capital to pass Romneycare, which while it helped a lot of poor people, has made the insurance market even worse for many, who still have insurance that they can't afford to actually use. permalink fedilink source parent