▲ 634 ▼ 'It doesn’t catch fire': Why China’s "fireproof" sodium battery could be the breakthrough that makes EVs safer than ICE cars (www.techradar.com) submitted 4 months ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 204 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/62209262
[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (3 children) I recall reading the same. Sodium batteries make loads of sense for house batteries like solar storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) They should be the default for solar installations and grid-level storage, but are too new. They can also replace lead-acid batteries for many applications. Lithium will still rule microelectronics and wearables, but all lower density stuff should switch to sodium. That being said, for cold environments like Scandinavia and the US Midwest & canada, sodium ion works better in both cold and heat swings than Lithium variants that it might be worth the tradeoff in capacity because in the long cold months, the reduced capacity and performance of lithium chemistries would completely close the gap anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] logi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago They should be the default for solar installations and grid-level storage What ever happened to flow batteries? They were supposed to be the really cheap low density option for grid storage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I would love this for my home, as well as at a smaller scale for my homelab, and even potentially things like power tools. Just recently a friend doing a home reno project had one of their drill batteries achieve thermal runaway, fortunately while they were home. Made me really think twice about the pile of tools in my garage. I'd trade in just about every portable-scale Li-ion battery I own for a slightly less energy dense but safer alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago I was hoping eBike could use them. I've seen one too many of those go up. Possibly from shoddy 3rd party batteries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Sodium chemistry works in cold temps, lithium does not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) They should be the default for solar installations and grid-level storage, but are too new. They can also replace lead-acid batteries for many applications. Lithium will still rule microelectronics and wearables, but all lower density stuff should switch to sodium. That being said, for cold environments like Scandinavia and the US Midwest & canada, sodium ion works better in both cold and heat swings than Lithium variants that it might be worth the tradeoff in capacity because in the long cold months, the reduced capacity and performance of lithium chemistries would completely close the gap anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] logi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago They should be the default for solar installations and grid-level storage What ever happened to flow batteries? They were supposed to be the really cheap low density option for grid storage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] logi@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago They should be the default for solar installations and grid-level storage What ever happened to flow batteries? They were supposed to be the really cheap low density option for grid storage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 9 points 4 months ago (1 child) I would love this for my home, as well as at a smaller scale for my homelab, and even potentially things like power tools. Just recently a friend doing a home reno project had one of their drill batteries achieve thermal runaway, fortunately while they were home. Made me really think twice about the pile of tools in my garage. I'd trade in just about every portable-scale Li-ion battery I own for a slightly less energy dense but safer alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago I was hoping eBike could use them. I've seen one too many of those go up. Possibly from shoddy 3rd party batteries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago I was hoping eBike could use them. I've seen one too many of those go up. Possibly from shoddy 3rd party batteries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Sodium chemistry works in cold temps, lithium does not. permalink fedilink source parent