SatansMaggotyCumFart comments on Punish the Democrats, she says

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 21 points 6 months ago (39 children)

If it was a race between Gavin Newsom and JD Vance I’d vote Newsom in an instant.

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[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago* (10 children)

I agree but it’s like asking “where would you like to be stabbed?”

For any Democrat trying to “move to the center” I’d like to point towards Labour in UK and ask them how that’s going.

Thankfully 2028 is a political lifetime away and Newsom might not even be relevant.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

Labour UK has been kind of astounding to watch. They started strong then somewhere around six months in it started to get wonky. And now it’s like some sort of Labourexit. Bizarre. But I guess that's why the Greens are growing.

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[+] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -9 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Newsom would do good things for the country and the world just like Harris or even Biden 2.0 would have.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 26 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Newsom would tell the base to fuck off while funding ICE and war, guaranteeing republican victories in 2030 and 32. He would be a Biden 2.0.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Biden did a lot of great things during his time as president and it’s a testament to the failing american education system and the right-wing propaganda machine how people couldn’t see it.

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[–] bdonvr 10 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

He also enabled genocide in Palestine and set the stage for Trump to win

All in all, a net negative to the world.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Dumb shit americans voting Trump or third party brought Trump into power.

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[–] bdonvr 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

That's like saying the fever is what's making you feel bad.

Like, sure. But you're blaming the symptom not the cause. It's the virus that did it.

Wagging your finger at those disillusioned by Dems being shit clearly hasn't worked multiple times now. Maybe we should try something else.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -4 points 6 months ago

Voters vote people in with our current system.

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago

It's also a testament to how bad the Biden administration failed at messaging.

Biden's BBB and infrastructure spending was some of the best legislature of our lifetimes(yes BBB was watered down, corrupted, and did not meet the moment, but the bar is in hell).

Instead of doing full-court media blitz to advertise this victory to voters, they said almost nothing. Too afraid that Biden would reveal his dementia to the public, I guess. Fewest press conferences in modern presidential history, by far.

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

"Hitler made the trains run on time"

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[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (25 children)

It's not going to be JD. Mark my words, save my comment, it's going to be Tucker Carlson. And if that happens and Dems haven't changed their tune we are absolutely fucked.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -4 points 6 months ago (24 children)

If that happens and leftists are still their own biggest enemies with their pursuit of an ideologically pure candidate that doesn’t exist we’ll be fucked.

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[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (22 children)

I don't think most leftists are looking for an ideologically pure candidate, they're looking for someone who will actually represent the people. The Israel issue is a great example of this disconnect; amongst Dem voters 90% are against supporting Israel, and yet there's only a handful of Democrat politicians who have are agaimst sending Israel military aid. It's really not a high bar for candidates to clear, and yet establishment Dems just keep SPRINTING to the right.

Leftists arent their own enemies, their enemies are neoliberals.

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[+] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -11 points 6 months ago (21 children)

The only thing leftists do more than infighting is repeating right-wing propaganda.

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[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 months ago (20 children)

Newsom is not left wing just because his interns make fun of Trump on twitter. Some people don't want their options to be "fascist" or "neoliberal" and shills like you critizise them more than they do with the literal nazis keeping this system in place

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -4 points 6 months ago (19 children)

I have friends and family getting their rights taken away and getting deported right now I need Trump gone.

If that makes me a shill so be it.

Start a party that has a chance then start lecturing about changing the system.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (18 children)

I have friends and family getting their rights taken away and getting deported right now I need Trump gone.

Then you need a candidate who can win. Not a candidate you want because they're a genocidal piece of shit and you love nothing in this world but genocide.

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