In Jon's defense, Reddit was fairly good and useful (unlike Twitter or FB) at one point many years ago. If you're not active there it would be easy to think things are still good.

Yeah, he seems to think that the over-moderation is a good thing, and Cindy tries to convince him that censorship is bad and the answer instead is more like what you can do with the Fediverse, you can move servers if you don't like how the server is moderated and who they federate with, but people are free to say what they want in their servers.