That's part of educating them. I'm not saying I have the answer on how best to reach them. But I know sitting back and saying "they can't even understand that " is not working.

We may need real material decline or militant attacks from the state to radicalize them. But, as that continues to happen, we can't have leadership in the "performative" groups just filled with liberals.

We need to have influence in these far reaching groups like DSA or whatever wine mom groups organize to join "No Kings". They don't need criticism that tells them what they are doing is "not enough". That just leads to inaction. They are not ready to risk their job and treats to do that. They need direction when they lose their jobs. They need direction when they lose their treats.

Yes, it's fucking pathetic that these stupid liberals are doing nothing as people are hurt. You don't have to like them. You can be mad at how useless they are. But its our job to literally put ourselves in these organizations to lead them (and we are not). Yelling at them will not change them.

It's great if you're in your local Marxist organization or PSL or whatever. But we don't build these groups by hoping liberals "see the light" and come to us. It's our job to go to where the masses are. And whether that results in Marxist organizations growing and people leaving the Democrats or DSA for more radical organizations. Or, if those organizations themselves become more radicalized because of our presence in them. Both are progress. And we are NOT doing that enough.

Sometimes you have to wait until liberals are asking the right questions for them to be ready to accept the answers. And that likely means their material conditions declining. But we need to be in positions of leadership to be able to give those answers. We can't just scream at them from our tiny groups that they have never heard of.