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[–] -1 points 6 months ago (26 children)

Talking about the problems without also talking about the solution just angers people who don’t know how to fix things, which is not productive.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    We all know what the solution is. But talking about it gets you banned and/or comments removed.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    No one here will ban you for talking about overthrowing capitalism and overthrowing the state?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Depends on whether your comment involves threats of violence or not. Threats of violence are almost always met with a comment removed at minimum.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Here?

    @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com we can say we should kill the US politicians in a revolution, right?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    I ain't your dad. However I do find such statements counter productive as it just scares people away from what anarchism is really about.

    As for politicians, I'd rather make them equal to the rest of us. For those who've spent all their lives pampered in privilege that would feel intolerable. Of course the fash can get bashed

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (15 children)

    Leftists: posts agitprop meme

    Liberals: "you can't just be angry, you need solutions!"

    Leftists: posts meme with appropriate historical context and potential solutions

    Liberals: "you leftists always talk too much, give me a tl;dr"

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Not what is happening. You’re a good example of what I’m talking about though. Thanks for that.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    I'm illustrating the pattern you liberals always use in response to our memes. The through line is that we never do it the "right" way. You came to an anarchist space to criticize our agitprop, and then get confused when we don't play your game. Why do we need a dissertation to go along with our agitprop?

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I’m an anarchist. Sorry hon. Not gonna win.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I don't believe you, but whatever. Since when has agitprop required a dissertation?

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Refusing to have conversations helps nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Ok, so why did you chastise OP instead of starting the conversation?

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I commented on the meme, not the user. And the conversation was about how these memes are missing the solution part.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    these memes are missing the solution

    That's not the point of agitprop. It never has been, and never will be.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    just angers people who don’t know how to fix things

    You.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Are you trolling, or do you have a point?

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Same question to you.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I've consistently said my point. Agitprop does not communicate solutions. It never has, and never will. The IWW did a lot of agitprop. Mr. Block comes to mind, as an example. They communicated grievances and got people upset at the current system. Education comes after the agitprop. This is like organizing 101 stuff.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I see no actions coming from this. Nothing is changing. Failed experiment. Solutions need to be added, new memes need to be generated.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    If people aren’t sufficiently angry at the system, they won’t bother to listen to a solution.

    Gotta raise the discontent and class consciousness first.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    It’s raised as far as it’s going to get. The system will have to get worse, but there won’t be the “until it gets better” part. It’s just going to keep getting worse until it’s so far gone no one can fix it.

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