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[–] 14 points 3 years ago (6 children)

Degrowth is such a fucking stupid idea. What we need is socialism. The demonic oligarchs that run the world are never going to prioritize reducing climate change. They've made that clear over the last century. There's too much profit to be made.

Worker owned means of production is the only solution. Only then can we direct the productive forces toward solving the most immediate problems that humanity faces. We've created so much productivity, but we need to guide it in the direction of sustainability instead of the profit motive.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You're conflating two very different things. You can have an equitable system of worker owned coops that still has a growth mindset and destroys the ecosystem. You don't magically become sustainable when socialism becomes a thing. Growth itself when we're bound by the resources of a single planet a problem, period.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Degrowth in absense of socialism is nonsense but it is necessary. Lazy socialism is the way.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago*

    I agree. Once we have socialism, we can have degrowth. But none of these articles that come out about it are advocating for that. They're advocating that the working class take the hit for climate change via increased unemployment, poverty, and ultimately death.

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