▲ 119 ▼ "Shut up" - the reddit country. (lemmygrad.ml) submitted 3 years ago by COMHASH@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml 29 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Are F16’s even good? I ask as someone that knows Jack shit about weapons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 years ago* (1 child) They seems average. They do have at least one significant flaw, that large air intake apparently suck up things from runway during take off, which is why the plane need clean airstrip and it could be hard to get when Russians can just strike wherever they want with missiles. And of course the enemy air superiority also make them abot as useful as every other plane, that is not very much after getting bombed while on land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago plus, another thing to put on the table is how well it operates with the other hardware, the country's tactics and war discipline. all modern armies work with the combined arms concept, meaning the air force for example it is not a separated entity, it needs the ground forces and the ground need them and so on, not as simples as 1 + 1 = 2. this is one of the major flaws in ukrainian army, they received a bunch of hardware from different countries and different times, nato and warsaw, nothing combines with each other permalink fedilink source parent [–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) The first F-16 flew in 1974 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 19 points 3 years ago I was going to say that F-16s have been steadily upgraded since then but then realized that they'll probably be given the oldest, shittiest, machines that could charitably fit a loose definition of "airworthy". permalink fedilink source parent [–] muirc@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Obviously, it's an earlier version of the superior M16 because F is before M in the alphabet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is a common misconception, actually the F in F16 stands for Flight, denoting it is an aircraft or other craft capable of sustained flight, and the M in M16 stands for Meapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) actually the F in F16 stands for Flight This does not compute, explain F-35. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Flight 35, it seems pretty obvious to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't it be c35 for crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago Crash-130 permalink fedilink source parent [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Flight" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The "-16" denotes that they can use the same clips. That's right, gun nerds. Clips. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 years ago I think every part of me clenched when I read that... bravo comrade, bravo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 years ago* (1 child) They seems average. They do have at least one significant flaw, that large air intake apparently suck up things from runway during take off, which is why the plane need clean airstrip and it could be hard to get when Russians can just strike wherever they want with missiles. And of course the enemy air superiority also make them abot as useful as every other plane, that is not very much after getting bombed while on land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago plus, another thing to put on the table is how well it operates with the other hardware, the country's tactics and war discipline. all modern armies work with the combined arms concept, meaning the air force for example it is not a separated entity, it needs the ground forces and the ground need them and so on, not as simples as 1 + 1 = 2. this is one of the major flaws in ukrainian army, they received a bunch of hardware from different countries and different times, nato and warsaw, nothing combines with each other permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago plus, another thing to put on the table is how well it operates with the other hardware, the country's tactics and war discipline. all modern armies work with the combined arms concept, meaning the air force for example it is not a separated entity, it needs the ground forces and the ground need them and so on, not as simples as 1 + 1 = 2. this is one of the major flaws in ukrainian army, they received a bunch of hardware from different countries and different times, nato and warsaw, nothing combines with each other permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) The first F-16 flew in 1974 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 19 points 3 years ago I was going to say that F-16s have been steadily upgraded since then but then realized that they'll probably be given the oldest, shittiest, machines that could charitably fit a loose definition of "airworthy". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 19 points 3 years ago I was going to say that F-16s have been steadily upgraded since then but then realized that they'll probably be given the oldest, shittiest, machines that could charitably fit a loose definition of "airworthy". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muirc@hexbear.net 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) Obviously, it's an earlier version of the superior M16 because F is before M in the alphabet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is a common misconception, actually the F in F16 stands for Flight, denoting it is an aircraft or other craft capable of sustained flight, and the M in M16 stands for Meapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) actually the F in F16 stands for Flight This does not compute, explain F-35. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Flight 35, it seems pretty obvious to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't it be c35 for crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago Crash-130 permalink fedilink source parent [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Flight" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The "-16" denotes that they can use the same clips. That's right, gun nerds. Clips. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 years ago I think every part of me clenched when I read that... bravo comrade, bravo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is a common misconception, actually the F in F16 stands for Flight, denoting it is an aircraft or other craft capable of sustained flight, and the M in M16 stands for Meapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) actually the F in F16 stands for Flight This does not compute, explain F-35. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Flight 35, it seems pretty obvious to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't it be c35 for crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago Crash-130 permalink fedilink source parent [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Flight" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The "-16" denotes that they can use the same clips. That's right, gun nerds. Clips. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 years ago I think every part of me clenched when I read that... bravo comrade, bravo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) actually the F in F16 stands for Flight This does not compute, explain F-35. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Flight 35, it seems pretty obvious to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't it be c35 for crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago Crash-130 permalink fedilink source parent [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Flight" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Flight 35, it seems pretty obvious to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't it be c35 for crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago Crash-130 permalink fedilink source parent [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Flight" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't it be c35 for crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago Crash-130 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) "Flight" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 years ago You can see all the money you spent acquiring one of these fly away when they crash, so it technically counts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) The "-16" denotes that they can use the same clips. That's right, gun nerds. Clips. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 years ago I think every part of me clenched when I read that... bravo comrade, bravo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RedSquid@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 years ago I think every part of me clenched when I read that... bravo comrade, bravo. permalink fedilink source parent