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That one time when he made cheese and it broke the ship (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 33 points 6 months ago* (7 children)

Naw you aren't wrong, he is possessive as shit over his 3 year old girlfriend. But lets blame the writers for that and not the character.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    If we're going to keep bringing up a literal age of the Ocampa as though it's some gotcha we should also mention they never reach an age we'd consider adult. Most of them die before they even become teens.

    We could blame the writers, or we could blame the puritanical mouth breathers who'd rather virtue signal their disgust at the mere concept of pedophilia rather than over the very real problems of child abuse and rape.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    eh? I just don't like the way he reacted to Kes trying to have a friend in her short time in the universe (Tom Paris).

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    He got jealous over more than just Paris, it's just none of the other ones were main characters. He also got paranoid and jealous because she knew which deck some male crew members rooms were on.

    His jealousy was a flaw, but it's the flaws are what make characters interesting. It doesn't always make them likeable, but it certainly makes them more real. If he was perfect he'd be everything OP was claiming he was. Instead he was a much more real and deep character. His character also evolved over time to be less jealous and guarded as he came to trust his fellow crew members, including Paris. If he didn't have those characteristics he'd be little more than a background character.

    Those flaws aren't the problem of bad writing, they're a problem of good writing.

    And if her age didn't matter, why'd you mention it?

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I was trying tro relate to kablez's context statement to be honest, though now I'm wishing I hadn't so my position would be clearer. But her literal age really doesn't matter; her "world experience" is what matters. Or her lack thereof rather. Neelix, at times, seem's to be taking advantage of someone who is young and naive. Neelix absolutely does evolve past it and becomes quite good friends with Tom later on. The last scene of "Parturition" always makes me smile. But up until that point I always find Neelix and Kes's scenes a little bit cringey.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That's the thing, he's trying to protect her from people who will take advantage of her. He literally saves her from a group of people who at the very least tortured her to try and figure out a way to get to her people. Whom they'd likely massacre and make slaves of.

    The problem is that over-protectiveness can be just as bad, which is something he comes to realize over the course of the first couple seasons.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    I can’t remember the exact scene or episode for the life of me, but she’s talking to some male member of the crew and asks to keep something a secret between them “because neelix gets jealous”. She felt the need to hide just because of how she figured he would react.

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