▲ 587 ▼ From millions of dollars to under a grand: The dramatic fall of the NFT (english.elpais.com) submitted 7 months ago by NomNom@feddit.uk to c/technology@lemmy.world 225 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago (11 children) How is buying the asset fucking with the supply? If you mean hoarding it, that's pretty much all Bitcoin is good for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (10 children) The supply of an asset is the volume of that asset available for purchase. If I buy all of that, supply becomes zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) The price goes up as you buy it. You could attempt to corner the market, but in doing so, you're also going to be massively enriching the current holders. What point would taking the entire supply do - especially since you can easily just start another blockchain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (6 children) You buy enough to raise the price, announce that you're buying it, schmucks try to get in on the wave, you dump while tweeting diamond hands. Repeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (5 children) Again, why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) To make money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MalMen@masto.pt 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) @mattyroses @HK65 starting another blcokchain is not as easy as copy the blockchain unless you convince the majority of people that your fork is better than the previous one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago Sure, there's a large network advantage. But here you're talking about a hypothetical where, for some reason, a major government has bought up all blockchain tokens and won't release them. So nobody's on the original one anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (10 children) The supply of an asset is the volume of that asset available for purchase. If I buy all of that, supply becomes zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) The price goes up as you buy it. You could attempt to corner the market, but in doing so, you're also going to be massively enriching the current holders. What point would taking the entire supply do - especially since you can easily just start another blockchain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (6 children) You buy enough to raise the price, announce that you're buying it, schmucks try to get in on the wave, you dump while tweeting diamond hands. Repeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (5 children) Again, why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) To make money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MalMen@masto.pt 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) @mattyroses @HK65 starting another blcokchain is not as easy as copy the blockchain unless you convince the majority of people that your fork is better than the previous one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago Sure, there's a large network advantage. But here you're talking about a hypothetical where, for some reason, a major government has bought up all blockchain tokens and won't release them. So nobody's on the original one anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) The price goes up as you buy it. You could attempt to corner the market, but in doing so, you're also going to be massively enriching the current holders. What point would taking the entire supply do - especially since you can easily just start another blockchain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (6 children) You buy enough to raise the price, announce that you're buying it, schmucks try to get in on the wave, you dump while tweeting diamond hands. Repeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (5 children) Again, why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) To make money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MalMen@masto.pt 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) @mattyroses @HK65 starting another blcokchain is not as easy as copy the blockchain unless you convince the majority of people that your fork is better than the previous one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago Sure, there's a large network advantage. But here you're talking about a hypothetical where, for some reason, a major government has bought up all blockchain tokens and won't release them. So nobody's on the original one anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (6 children) You buy enough to raise the price, announce that you're buying it, schmucks try to get in on the wave, you dump while tweeting diamond hands. Repeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (5 children) Again, why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) To make money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (5 children) Again, why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) To make money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) To make money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) The government you're talking about can print money at will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) But that increases the money supply. This way they can take money from other people. For example Russia can get USD without printing and inflating RUB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's just FOREX with extra steps? If Russia controls the entire supply of Bitcoin (which is what you're saying) then why would anyone with USD want to buy it? At that point, being owned by Russia entirely, it's just a Russian currency. The whole supposed attraction of Bitcoin is that it's not a government currency, and the supply isn't controlled by a central bank. Ethereum has additional uses to that, but that's still one of the prime factors as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Not the entire supply, just enough to affect prices. Basically the stock market but without even the appearance of it not being manipulated to hell. And it's not Russia, or not just them, anyone with enough money to play can fuck people with sub-8 figure net worths over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MalMen@masto.pt 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) @mattyroses @HK65 starting another blcokchain is not as easy as copy the blockchain unless you convince the majority of people that your fork is better than the previous one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago Sure, there's a large network advantage. But here you're talking about a hypothetical where, for some reason, a major government has bought up all blockchain tokens and won't release them. So nobody's on the original one anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago Sure, there's a large network advantage. But here you're talking about a hypothetical where, for some reason, a major government has bought up all blockchain tokens and won't release them. So nobody's on the original one anyways. permalink fedilink source parent