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Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash (www.gamingonlinux.com)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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[+] -39 points 7 months ago (34 children)

They are making the point that you won't be able to tell the difference. & It's a salient one.

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  • [+] 58 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (28 children)
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  • [+] -38 points 7 months ago (27 children)

    Okay. I guess you want the volunteer open source dev to write everything by hand from scratch so it will pass your high standards. That's on you, honestly.

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  • [–] 49 points 7 months ago (24 children)

    Ahh yes, how dare a community run and funded project have community accountability.

    The project has several ways of being community funded.

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  • [+] -44 points 7 months ago (23 children)

    Accountability for what!? You people have lost your minds.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    Are YOU the dev in question, or do you just have an unreasonably huge boner for AI?

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  • [+] -15 points 7 months ago* (20 children)

    I happen to agree w the developer that peoples' problem w AI is actually a problem w Capitalism

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (10 children)

    You sound even more like the dev in question. To quote an excerpt from his post:

    There are massive issues with AI tech, but those are caused by our current capitalist culture, not the tools themselves. In many ways, it couldn't have been implemented in a worse way but it was AI that bought all the RAM, it was OpenAI. It was not AI that stole copyrighted content, it was Facebook. It wasn't AI that laid off thousands of employees, it's deluded executives who don't understand that this tool is an augmentation, not a replacement for humans.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Well, you are making up head cannon. Check my profile, there's a Pixelfed link. I'm an artist not an engineer.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

    I'm just telling you what you sound like. I checked your profile, gotta love the number of submissions that have characters that have one too many fingers. You are about as much as an artist as me walking down the street and paying an actual street artist to tell him what he should draw, except you aren't even paying a struggling street artist...? (well, you know if you are or aren't, anyway)

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    Look, as annoying as this guy is, I am pretty sure he drew these himself. I think I am usually pretty good at spotting AI and his profile doesn't raise any flags for me. Of course I could be wrong, but just by the fact that these are often photographed pieces of paper makes me think it's real.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    Maybe you are right, it really was only one submission I found suspect, and it could be due to style, but AI is also increasingly difficult to discern. The paper says nothing, that's just a border style:

    Regardless, I'm still just describing what he sounds like, and sounding like that is what made me suspicious enough to try to check his other claims. Not sure why someone who is an artist would try to defend hiding AI usage, given they are being much more targeted and affected by generative AI.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter, he knows if he drew it or not and my deeply nested comment will be lost to time, but I would be sus of not just him, but any "artist" that sounds like they are excessively defending generative AI use. Edited my original comment somewhat tho.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Omg this shit is ludicrous. Are you baby brained?

    I don't use pencils to draft my work (penciling). I do this intentionally b/c I am a trained printmaker & back in the day (think sixteenth century) when making intaglio prints (that means on copper plates), there was no way to erase so they etched balls-to -the-wall style, mistakes & all.

    I spent a long time learning to create line art w/o using pencil b/c I wanted to create that same weird, not-quite-right look that intaglio prints have.

    I'm not sure why I'm bothering explaining myself b/c I am not in the habit of doing so but, goddamn, get a fucking hobby then maybe you won't feel so threatened by AI.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Honestly, I don't care, it looks like shit to me (to each his own). I was just telling you what your argument sounded like, and showing how much more sus I am of artists who defend AI. Lots of words, but you've just joined the ranks of the people selling themselves as artists who are just selling printed AI slop. You'll be the one to know for sure, but I don't know what else to say, you are the one who unnecessarily brought it into the reply chain so you could throw shade on yourself ... Goo goo, gaga?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    So, you're a simpleton. Noted.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    thats not nice. also, capitalism is the problem.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Capitalism is A problem, and a big one, but "AI" has a slew of problems unique to it. Furthermore, I didn't come here to be nice.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    well, maybe you should be nice.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Try actually having open communication. Your as much as fault as that guy.

    Your clearly here with a made up mind and no room for discussion or nuance. Thus you don't deserve anyone's kindness.

    That guy is just here to be an asshole.

    You basically have a sign on your head saying "be an asshole to me or don't talk to me".

    When the only room for discussion is hostile don't be surprised when you get the assholes talking to you.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Even if that were true, which it isn't, there are plenty of other reasons to scrutinize any use of "generative" AI.

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  • [+] -10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Like...?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Like that it produces hallucinated bullshit and anyone can see that with any given 2-3 Google searches now. It's literally impossible to miss that if you use the Internet now.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not a fanboi of AI, but also not all AI is equally capable. You can be upset for ethical reasons, you can dislike some things it produces for style reasons, and yes it does sometimes produce code that feels like it should work, even though it doesn't. All of these things are true.

    But also Claude doing coding is very different than the AI answers on Google searches, and even those are much better than a cherry-picked highlight reel of bad results on a blog post.

    Again, you don't have to like AI or agree with its use, but claiming the code Claude produces is fully bullshit because some customer support chatbot does a bad job is just being misinformed. You should at least know your enemy and its capabilities.

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