▲ 960 ▼ Fairphone posted 83% year-on-year growth in Q4 2025 - A journey away from Big Tech to a more sustainable alternative (eurotechguide.com) submitted 5 months ago by FallenWalnut@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 148 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516 It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile. For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.
[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 8 points 5 months ago (4 children) They should partner use grapheneos and sell in USA. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wasn't the issue here that they would have liked to partner with GrapheneOS, but GrapheneOS didn't want to, because of some security requirements that they had? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) GrapheneOS had security requirements and they offered to help Fairphone implement them, but Fairphone refused. Apparently they are not interested in their users security and privacy. So I won't be touching Fairphones with a 10ft stick. Motorola was interested and should be launching a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled at the end of 2026 or in 2027. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Is there a source available for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Sorry, I meant for the Fairphone refusing their help part. I haven’t read that and find it interesting. Thanks anyway! I’m optimistic about Moto. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 5 months ago I got a Google pixel 10 just so I can have GrapheneOS as soon as possible. I am glad that Google's plans to lock down Android are blowing up in their faces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Graphene has beef with every device maker that doesn't include a secure element throttle (which is every device maker except Google and Apple, and presumably Moto as of the first partnership device). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I mean, if you want to call it a beef, go ahead. But it's not like it is an unreasonable request, since it is necessary to make sure short pins used by most people are at least a bit secure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Personally, I'd love a phone I can experiment with pure Linux OSs or Sailfish on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago A secure Linux phone would be the ultimate goal I think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago I just bought a FP6 with /e/os installed by Murena in the US and it's been great so far except that RCS isn't supported by /e/os so group texts don't work. Which is honestly a huge issue that is causing enough social friction that I'll probably revert to an iPhone soon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 5 months ago They partner with Murena for selling to the US right now (though its only usable on Tmobile). They are trying to enter the US market on their own (perhaps with the Fairphone 7), but the US carriers make things way more complicated than other markets. They already sell their headphones in the US through Amazon as of late last year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wasn't the issue here that they would have liked to partner with GrapheneOS, but GrapheneOS didn't want to, because of some security requirements that they had? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) GrapheneOS had security requirements and they offered to help Fairphone implement them, but Fairphone refused. Apparently they are not interested in their users security and privacy. So I won't be touching Fairphones with a 10ft stick. Motorola was interested and should be launching a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled at the end of 2026 or in 2027. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Is there a source available for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Sorry, I meant for the Fairphone refusing their help part. I haven’t read that and find it interesting. Thanks anyway! I’m optimistic about Moto. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 5 months ago I got a Google pixel 10 just so I can have GrapheneOS as soon as possible. I am glad that Google's plans to lock down Android are blowing up in their faces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Graphene has beef with every device maker that doesn't include a secure element throttle (which is every device maker except Google and Apple, and presumably Moto as of the first partnership device). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I mean, if you want to call it a beef, go ahead. But it's not like it is an unreasonable request, since it is necessary to make sure short pins used by most people are at least a bit secure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) GrapheneOS had security requirements and they offered to help Fairphone implement them, but Fairphone refused. Apparently they are not interested in their users security and privacy. So I won't be touching Fairphones with a 10ft stick. Motorola was interested and should be launching a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled at the end of 2026 or in 2027. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Is there a source available for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Sorry, I meant for the Fairphone refusing their help part. I haven’t read that and find it interesting. Thanks anyway! I’m optimistic about Moto. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 5 months ago I got a Google pixel 10 just so I can have GrapheneOS as soon as possible. I am glad that Google's plans to lock down Android are blowing up in their faces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Graphene has beef with every device maker that doesn't include a secure element throttle (which is every device maker except Google and Apple, and presumably Moto as of the first partnership device). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I mean, if you want to call it a beef, go ahead. But it's not like it is an unreasonable request, since it is necessary to make sure short pins used by most people are at least a bit secure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Is there a source available for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Sorry, I meant for the Fairphone refusing their help part. I haven’t read that and find it interesting. Thanks anyway! I’m optimistic about Moto. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Sorry, I meant for the Fairphone refusing their help part. I haven’t read that and find it interesting. Thanks anyway! I’m optimistic about Moto. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Sorry, I meant for the Fairphone refusing their help part. I haven’t read that and find it interesting. Thanks anyway! I’m optimistic about Moto. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 5 months ago I got a Google pixel 10 just so I can have GrapheneOS as soon as possible. I am glad that Google's plans to lock down Android are blowing up in their faces. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Graphene has beef with every device maker that doesn't include a secure element throttle (which is every device maker except Google and Apple, and presumably Moto as of the first partnership device). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I mean, if you want to call it a beef, go ahead. But it's not like it is an unreasonable request, since it is necessary to make sure short pins used by most people are at least a bit secure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* I mean, if you want to call it a beef, go ahead. But it's not like it is an unreasonable request, since it is necessary to make sure short pins used by most people are at least a bit secure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Personally, I'd love a phone I can experiment with pure Linux OSs or Sailfish on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago A secure Linux phone would be the ultimate goal I think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago A secure Linux phone would be the ultimate goal I think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago I just bought a FP6 with /e/os installed by Murena in the US and it's been great so far except that RCS isn't supported by /e/os so group texts don't work. Which is honestly a huge issue that is causing enough social friction that I'll probably revert to an iPhone soon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 5 months ago They partner with Murena for selling to the US right now (though its only usable on Tmobile). They are trying to enter the US market on their own (perhaps with the Fairphone 7), but the US carriers make things way more complicated than other markets. They already sell their headphones in the US through Amazon as of late last year. permalink fedilink source parent