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I would say Neelix is a big part. Starfleet officers have already consented to the possibility that they might be ordered to their death for the good of their ship or the Federation. While their transformed versions may not have been exactly the same beings as the originals, there is still some ethical cover in that some version of them in the past had accepted these risks. Neelix, however, was not a Starfleet officer and had made it very clear that he did not consent to having his life sacrificed for the greater good of Voyager.
Just how much this ethical baggage from either side carried over to a new being is unclear; it certainly would have been less unclear if it had been two officers merged together and not a civilian passenger.
I mean there's two officers killed by tuxiv, why does it get a pass?
Because he didn’t kill anyone, not any more than a baby whose mother died in childbirth.
That's the wrong comparison: you can't in any way get back the mother. Tuvix wasn't just an error of the transporter like Will/Tom Riker, it was a monster built from harvesting the organs of two living being AND it was possible to get them back if you destroy it. Easiest moral choice ever
All of that doesn't change the fact that Tuvix did not kill anyone. You initial premise is flawed.
Yes, finally, some common sense. Neelix did not consent to die for Starfleet. Tuvok did not consent to die to become Tuvix. Neither consented to staying as Tuvix, because Tuvix was his own person and could not make decisions for them.
Nobody protests Tom and William Riker staying separate despite literally being the same person. Why not extend the same logic to Tuvok and Neelix? If a clone can be it's own person, then why is the well being of two individuals cast aside?