Genuinely dont have anything to say. Not that I agree or disagree but I just wanna see everyone else's opinions first

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[–] 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interest_convergence

It's somewhat counter-productive and very idealist to argue that people should only be motivated by morality. The reality is that people are self-interested, even when they include larger groups of people (like family and community) in their sense of self.

White people are harmed by racism. Men are harmed by patriarchy. Torturers are harmed by torturing. None of these facts diminishes the other facts that non-white people are more harmed by racism, that non-men are harmed more by patriarchy, that the tortured are harmed more by torturing.

It is perfectly alright for white people to say that they want to end racism because it harms them. It is perfectly alright for torturers to fight against torture because it destroys them and their families. It is perfectly fine for men to fight patriarchy because it harms them.

We need that convergence of interests to move society in the direction of truth, reconciliation, reparation, and liberation.

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