▲ 960 ▼ Fairphone posted 83% year-on-year growth in Q4 2025 - A journey away from Big Tech to a more sustainable alternative (eurotechguide.com) submitted 6 months ago by FallenWalnut@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 148 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516 It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile. For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Android is technically doing just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand what that's supposed to mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) That it doesn't have huge downsides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't understand what that's supposed to mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) That it doesn't have huge downsides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) That it doesn't have huge downsides. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but at is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 5 months ago I'm Jesus now? permalink fedilink source parent