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[–] artyom@piefed.social 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 16 points 5 months ago

We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 5 months ago

Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!

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[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…

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[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.

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[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 7 points 5 months ago

Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

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[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.

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[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago

could you not just get a data-only SIM?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago

Just delete all your phone apps and then you won't get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

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[–] aegg@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

It also isn't as performant for the price, or so I've heard. They're working on it, but it isn't up to par with big name companies.

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago*

What does that mean to you? I hear people say this all the time about various devices but I haven't come across anything my phone couldn't run in over a decade. I haven't had a flagship or top tier phone in that whole time either. Are you talking about actual functionality issues or just theoretical stuff and benchmarks?

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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Like Android you mean?

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software

I don't see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

I don’t see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.

This article is about Fairphone with /e/OS, not some other OEM with a proprietary Android variant.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

Then you are off-topic as well.
/e/OS is based on LineageOS. AOSP alone has very little "userland" still actively maintained.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Then you are off-topic as well.

No. Pelespirit asked about Jolla which is mentioned in the ~~article~~ posts's text body. I gave context for Jolla's Android compatibility. It's 100% on topic.

/e/OS is based on LineageOS.

And: "The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM."

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago

I think I bought one, but I'm not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

There will always be limitations unless massive changes occur such as Google open sourcing their Play Services as part of AOSP. MicroG has limited resources to implement compatibility.