▲ 520 ▼ Windows 12 release date in 2026 possible, with AI features that may force CPU upgrades (www.notebookcheck.net) submitted 6 months ago by commander@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 325 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] lime@feddit.nu 68 points 6 months ago (6 children) god i hope they fuck this up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 6 months ago* (3 children) They're already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined. ...and frankly, I think they will. They've bet the farm on this AI shit, and they need to force it into everything to justify it's fucking existence even though Copilot is the most dogshit out of all these dogshit generative AI systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 24 points 6 months ago (2 children) vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Right, but that's just it, they're basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year. It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality. As the article reasonably posits, it's way more likely that they'll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn't, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 6 months ago whoof. i still don't understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they're smart about it they'll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jtrek@startrek.website 16 points 6 months ago The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Yes. They are stupid and don't deserve their huge paychecks. They could've done basically nothing. Maybe security updates. And they would've had a decent brand that kept bringing in money. Their leadership is worse than doing nothing. A dog would make a better ceo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] exaybachae@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago* Wish granted (wiggles nose) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 6 months ago* (3 children) They're already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined. ...and frankly, I think they will. They've bet the farm on this AI shit, and they need to force it into everything to justify it's fucking existence even though Copilot is the most dogshit out of all these dogshit generative AI systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 24 points 6 months ago (2 children) vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Right, but that's just it, they're basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year. It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality. As the article reasonably posits, it's way more likely that they'll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn't, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 6 months ago whoof. i still don't understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they're smart about it they'll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 24 points 6 months ago (2 children) vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Right, but that's just it, they're basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year. It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality. As the article reasonably posits, it's way more likely that they'll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn't, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 6 months ago whoof. i still don't understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they're smart about it they'll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Right, but that's just it, they're basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year. It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality. As the article reasonably posits, it's way more likely that they'll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn't, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 6 months ago whoof. i still don't understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they're smart about it they'll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 6 months ago whoof. i still don't understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they're smart about it they'll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 16 points 6 months ago The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Yes. They are stupid and don't deserve their huge paychecks. They could've done basically nothing. Maybe security updates. And they would've had a decent brand that kept bringing in money. Their leadership is worse than doing nothing. A dog would make a better ceo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago* Wish granted (wiggles nose) permalink fedilink source parent